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The most intellectual Halloween


Unfortunately, most slasher fans are mindless sheep who just want a simplistic good versus evil story, and by-the-numbers Halloween film with all the familiar tropes—such as the Laurie/Michael showdown.

Back in my day, we thought about films and what they were saying. We were interested in Michael Myers’ motivations, and why he was doing all this carnage.

Folks nowadays seem to find him interesting only because he’s a superhuman killer. How many times have we heard it that this movie sucked because he was weak, unmotivated, and lacked screen time?

So, a movie comes along 40 years into the series focused on a character (Corey Cunningham) who Michael Myers doesn’t kill and barely fights. He has some connection to him, almost like he sees him as a son or, at least, apprentice. How can that not be an interesting idea when applied to a mysterious horror icon?!

This, and the trilogy as a whole, raises all kinds of thoughtful questions about when Myers began his “evil path” and if, in fact, he was influenced into it at Smith’s Grove by a loon like Dr. Loomis. The parallels with Laurie/Michael and Corey/Allyson relationships were brilliant and illuminating.

I dig this film and the trilogy as a whole. It subverted all kinds of expectations, focused on character, and actually had something interesting to say that elevated the genre.

If you hate it, you’re probably a delinquent neanderthal who’s a member of the marching band gang. Get bent, losers!



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Exactly. In fact, this is the best Halloween movie along with the original, and It explores the Laurie/Michael relationship in a much better and Deep way than the original sister/brother twist.

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I think it's not a Halloween movie so much as a slasher with Halloween characters placed in it.

Like the hellraiser movies from 2000-2005

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It's a mystery movie with Michael and Laurie in It. If a Halloween movie IS a collection of kills without plot this is muuuch better than that, but horror fans have like two neurones in their brains.

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What did you think of DGG's The Exorcist: Believer?

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I liked Halloween Ends for daring to be something different. You just can't win when trying to please horror fans.

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I've just watched kills and ends after seeing the 2018 film when it was out in cinemas.

This was different but I felt the whole plot with the babysitter didn't really make sense. In the original 1978 film, Michael is seen as a force of nature, the personification of evil. We don't know why he kills and that's what makes the original so good. You mention we want to understand him but the whole point in the original (not the rob zombie remakes) is there appears to be no explanation.

It also seems very out of character for him to team up with some kid and be able to be beat by the kid. Why he also hid for so long makes no sense.

This is a poor end for Michael Myers but he'll be brought back at some point. Both this and kills also lack any tension which is what made the original so good

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