Surprised


Just got back from seeing Halloween Kills and I’m pleasantly surprised! It’s not a great movie, but it is better than the last one. There are several reasons why:

1) A tighter script. This one stays focused on one thing, getting Michael. The last one was scattershot, opening too many plot lines.

2) Little to no teen hijinks. This movie features adults, which is refreshing.

3) Laurie is made (fairly) likable. The last one featured her as a drunken loser, but Laurie here seems to have regained her humanity.

4) With Laurie and Deputy Hawkins out of commission, the bulk of the movie falls to Anthony Michael Hall’s Tommy Doyle. Thankfully, he’s up to the task. His character is focused, and we’re immediately on his side.

My only real complaint is Michael’s continuing slide into Jason Voorhees territory. Still, after the mess of the last one, Halloween Kills was a pleasant surprise.

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I'm impressed as well, and I'm glad it focused on other characters besides Laurie. The Myers house looks really polished and good. I liked the flashback scenes a lot. The gay couple was pretty funny and entertaining. I'm hoping Halloween Ends will be wild. Supposedly that one will feature a time jump to present time and it will acknowledge Covid-19.

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I really liked the flashback scenes, too. I think the original was/is perfect as is and never needed any sequels, but, if you’re going to have Michael return, showing what happened that night after he fell from the balcony is important. I think Halloween Kills did an excellent job with that.

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I liked it also.
Very entertaining if you liked the last one

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Tighter script?! This movie is a mess and Anthony Michael Hall's performance is one of the worst things about the movie.

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Your opinion. This script is better because it’s focused. Anthony Michael Hall is also solid.

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Saying "your opinion" isn't an argument.

The movie has a significantly worse score at RT and is lower on Metacritic and IMDB too. That's called a consensus.

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We’ll golly gee Beav, I guess I better change my opinion because of what other people think. SMH

Halloween Kills IS better than the mess that came before it. The four reasons I cited still stand.

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"Thousands of people are wrong and I am right"

This is what you sound like.

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No, it sounds like I’m expressing my opinion of the movie. Don’t like my opinion? That’s your prerogative. I, however, stand by it. Halloween 2018 had a mess of a script. Halloween Kills, while not a great movie, was better because the filmmakers kept the script focused.

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I liked Halloween Kills much better than the last one and couldn't care less about critical consensus

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Any “score” is just an opinion as well.

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It's many people's opinions that Goodfellas, Casino, The Terminator are good movies too. That's called a consensus.

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1000 opinions....are still just opinions....at no point can they magically transform into fact

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I thought it was about on a par with the previous one. It's a little different, because in the previous one we were sort of being introduced to characters again, old and new. In a way, it really seemed more like the first entry in a movie series, setting up the story and the character relationships.

This one starts with Myers escaping the fire, and its set up for him to go on a rampage while the people have to get together and come up with a way to stop him.

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They were both equally mediocre, but in different ways


None of the adults behave like adults, so it doesn't really make a difference that the characters are adults on paper. Almost every character just marches straight into their death. Multiple scenes of Myers slaughtering groups of people, because normal people are apparently way too stupid to coordinate with each other in the slightest. Firemen taking turns swinging at Michael like henchman waiting their turn to swing at Bruce Lee lol

A script is many things, it includes a story, but also dialogue and individual scenes which describe specific character actions. The story may be tighter, but the dialogue is pretty bad in many parts of this movie

I didn't think Laurie was particularly likeable in this. I mean, she barely had any screentime and was almost totally irrelevant. I guess it's easier to be likeable when your character is not actually an active part of the story

Meh. Tommy was a bad character in this. The character in this movie was Tommy Doyle because the script said it was Tommy Doyle. But this character could have easily been anybody else since his experiences in the first film didn't play a huge role in the film. We just have an angry guy fully ready to incite and engage in mob violence. His character was mostly a plot device to facilitate the story that they were trying to tell: the story of Haddonfield's residents recklessly banding together to fight back against the boogeyman. They didn't NEED Tommy Doyle to serve this role, but they wanted to bring back characters from the original to gain fan interest. It brings back lots of familiar faces just to add nothing to their characters. None of them moved on from Haddonfield in 40 years, apparently

I know that your opinion is your opinion, I'm not trying to change your mind. I did not like Halloween 2018, but this movie only did one thing better and that is the scenes of violence. Everything else was like Halloween 2018 but just a tad bit stupiderr

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