What did Muddy say when (possible SPOILERS)?
Could someone tell me what Muddy said to Leonard Chess when Leonard left the room saying "I'm married"? Leonard then said, "That's bulls**t." Thanks!
he said something like "yeah, coz she aint a redhead" inferring that Leonard was above doing a black chick.
AGAIN it is VERY important to remember - this is a HORRIBLY written movie with VERY little "truth" in it. Chess never had an affair or anything else with Etta James! He was into green, not black. It was 90% about the music and maybe 10% about the music.
For chrissakes, he had Muddy doing odd jobs around the place after his records quit selling. It's just a fairy tale picture, google more for the real deal.
Thank you! :)
Yeah, the movie was quite underwhelming, wasn't it? Especially with those "Hollywoodized" fictional parts including the murder scene.
I could be wrong, but it sounded to me like Muddy said "and she ain't red headed", referring to Chess' wife. At the beginning of the movie, Chess was talking about marring a redheaded woman, but ended up marrying Revetta instead. So I think that maybe Muddy was implying that Chess' wife isn't the woman he really wants, so why not cheat?
I thought when Chess said, "I'm married," Muddy said, "yeah, and her name is redhead." I kind of thought he was implying that Chess was more caught up in the music business (the redhead lady was a producer or something) than his real wife. And since Chess said he didn't mind bribing, he maybe didn't mind sleeping with whom he needed to, to make it. Well at least that's the way it seemed to me. The line is just a bit confusing, because different areas of the story aren't explored quite enough. Even though, we all know most of the story was fabricated, or just not told at all.
sharethat makes perfect sense. i'm really glad that someone posted a thread about this. i came on here wondering if i was the only person who didn't get that part.
That little part of the movie, and the part where muddy and his son go to chess's house and chuck is there are very hard to hear. It's not that it doesn't make sense, you just can't even really hear what they are saying. There were some other sections where they mumbled a little too much . And, cigarettes hanging out of their mouth didn't help. ha
"For chrissakes, he had Muddy doing odd jobs around the place after his records quit selling."
That's a myth that has been refuted many times over - it never happened. Muddy was never hard up enough to do anything outside of music after he became successful in the '50s. I'm actually surprised that piece of fiction DIDN'T make it into this film though, considering how much of the story was fictionalized.
Didn't notice the part where Muddy says something about a redhead after Chess walks out of the room saying "I'm married" but that WOULD explain the scene where Muddy is about to sign the contract and Chess says:
Chess:You got a power over that guitar, it's amazing. Put three women in your bed last night.
Muddy:Yeah, but you're married
Chess:I like another kind of broad does that bother you?
Muddy:What that gone bother me for? It ain't got nothing to do with me.
Chess:I'm just saying, does that make me like "them", because that's not me. I'm not "that"
I took Chess' "them" and "that" to mean white people and racist. After rewatching the original scene, Muddy says "yeah, and they ain't redhead".
You have it right. I watched the movie with subtitles (something I typically do when the dialog is hard to hear and understand). Lot's of whispered passages, etc. I also think the use of the term 'redhead' was deliberate, as it mirrored the scene at the beginning where Chess is with his redheaded girlfriend and her father comes to the door.
shareThe "odd jobs" bt was a rumour. The relationship may not have been "equal" but Muddy wasn't doing windows. Also, the movie had a great scene that showed an attention to detail and a love of the subjects. The scene where Dixon visits Muddy at home to tell him they have an offer to tour England includes a Muddy detail only someone in the know would inlcude: Muddy, watching the White Sox on TV, eating a grape soda and vanilla ice cream float.
shareI don't know if Muddy Waters spoke like this for real and that's why he mumbled a lot but I couldn't understand a lot of what he said. All the acting was great. I especially liked the Howlin' Wolf character. I thought he was sexy.
shareThanks from me too! I just saw it and I didn't catch that either.
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