Darnell Martin


Was it just me or did she talk about this movie during the DVD extras like it was "Sex and the City" instead of a film about, arguably, the most important label and artists in the history of Blues and Rock and Roll??? She obviously had zero respect for the facts behind this film. She clearly has no love for the music, at least based on her interviews on the DVD. Not that she dislikes it-she just doesn't seem to have any passion for it. This was a soap opera to her.

She is also unbelievably arrogant (as anyone who can flagrantly disregard facts in this way would have to be). At one point on the DVD "extras" she says: "it's historical. it's important...these are extraordinary artists who are voiceless now because no one knows who they are".

Say what now???? Which world does she live in???? I'm 40 and I grew up knowing EXACTLY who all of these guys are (and I did when I was a kid), and I have friends in their twenties who know who they are. This just proves to me that she is completely ignorant, and not passionate about, rock and roll or blues. Could this possibly explain why the screenplay for this film was so heinously inaccurate? I think that Martin is telling her version of the story. I.E. it is dumbed down, childish and simplistic because most of this is new to Ms. Martin.

Not to disparage the actors though. With the exception of Beyonce Knowles' ridiculously melodramatic portrait of Etta James-everyone in this was superb.

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Thanks for posting...Ms. Martin bit off more than she could chew with this story...

In the DVD, she comes off terribly. She sounds like a self absorbed film student, which is unfortunate...im certain she has talent...but...hmm

And yeah, im 36, I've more than heard of these artists, I've had em in my music collection for a long time.

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I agree that Martin's movie was flawed. I listened to the commentary and she did an admirable job and did quite a bit of research. But the execution could have been much better. Too many omissions.
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"She is also unbelievably arrogant (as anyone who can flagrantly disregard facts in this way would have to be). At one point on the DVD "extras" she says: "it's historical. it's important...these are extraordinary artists who are voiceless now because no one knows who they are".

Say what now???? Which world does she live in???? I'm 40 and I grew up knowing EXACTLY who all of these guys are (and I did when I was a kid), and I have friends in their twenties who know who they are. This just proves to me that she is completely ignorant, and not passionate about, rock and roll or blues. Could this possibly explain why the screenplay for this film was so heinously inaccurate? I think that Martin is telling her version of the story. I.E. it is dumbed down, childish and simplistic because most of this is new to Ms. Martin.""
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Yeah, well you guys are in your later 30s and 40s. Most people in their 20s don't know anything about this music. Just because you have a couple friends in their 20s that do, doesn't mean Martin is wrong. This isn't about you. Y'all obviously have a larger musical pallete than the average music listener. I also was into this music when I was in my teens in the 80s as were many of my friends but we didn't represent our generation. Though we listened to alot of the music of our youth, we weren't afraid to branch out and listen to other music outside our peer group. Today's average music fan thinks of this music as a footnote to music history but that's all. They don't buy it or really listen to it. If it was so well-known by the kids who buy music today, Muddy and Etta would be cited as influences and covered by more popular artists more often than Tupac and U2. It's usually only the cult and alternative groups who claim influence and cover the classic blues artists like Howlin' Wolf and Muddy.

Ask the average teen, 20something or even 30 yo to name any one Muddy Waters, Etta James or Little Walter song and you'll get a blank stare. They recognize the names bt they don't know the music. At most they could name one or two Chuck Berry songs. They can name the Beatles, Beach Boys, Motown, Stones' or Hendryx songs but that's about as far back as they can go. It's even worse in the black community where hip hop has almost totally erased the memory and history of alot of the classic blues artists who paved the way for Lil Wayne to get onstage and act the fool. To alot of them, early blues was considered "slave" music because it was created by musicians who were sharecroppers picking cotton instead of the true heritage music it is.

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Yeh the makers of Walk The Line said something like that on the DVD, like " no one knows what these guys were like when they were young..." I'm sorry but when I picture Elvis I always picture him in the 50's with the pompadour cool clothes guitar and just playing great rock music, same with Jerry Lee, cash however i picture in every era. The point is movie makers always what to speak for everyone else, but really just tell the facts they're far more interesting!

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I'm guilty of some of this. But, I did know who Muddy Waters, Etta James (I've loved At Last since I was a little girl), Chuck Berry (plus my granny always sees him at the casino in St. Louis lol), Bo Diddley, and the Chess brothers. I had no idea who Howlin Wolf and Little Walter were, but the movie made me look these people up.

I didn't know a lot about these artists because I wasn't raised up on the blues. Now my mother and my uncles were because she has parents that moved from Mississippi to St. Louis. But, she doesn't listen too it; even though she sang along with the movie (maybe childhood memories lol). I've grown up on a lot of jazz and old school music(Marvin Gaye, The Whispers, P-Funk, etc...), like my mom did too.

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the gal didnt say, "very few people under 35 know who these artists are".. she said "NO ONE KNOWS who these artists are."

i hate to break it to you kids out there but there are a lot of us that are over 35... more than there are 20somethings... and this chick should realize that. more importantly, if she is making a movie about musicians, she should know the musicians level of popularity in all demographics.

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I totally agree about the commemtary- she went on and on about it being a 'love story' and compared the 'Blues' to 'sex' at one point, lol And went on about Gaby Union not wearing makeup (OMG- the shock!!) Not one of the best commentaries, but cut her some slack- she is a new filmmaker.

She did a good job pulling the film together (not as simple when you're working under time/budget constraints). She did an even better job writing the film, which is what I most credit her for.

Director's commentary should go into the technical aspects of the film (see Ridley Scott's wonderful commentary of Blade Runner).

"I love you so I don't care what I think of you." Helen Wright in Humoresque

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Darnell Martin is not a new film maker. She's been around for over 10 years. One of her first films was I Like it Like That in 1994. She also directed a couple episodes of Law and Order SVU.

I don't like what she did with Cadillac Records, though. Too many inconsistencies and inaccuracies fo me to even name here.

However, thr comparison between the Blues and sex is accurate. Early Blues songs were VERY sexual. Also, the terms Jazz and Rock n' Roll were originally used to describe sex. So she wasn't going out on a limb when she made that comparison.

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Certainly 'new' to this genre, LOL Correct me if I'm wrong, Law and Order is episodic TV, right? Not feature length movie-making which is totally different.

Trust me, if you lived in the Mississippi Delta at the time a lot of these guys sang the "Blues", it had NOTHING to do with sex. More like poverty, oppression, disenfranchisement, marginalization, need I go on??

A GREAT documentary is 'The Howlin Wolf Story'. You should check it out.

"I love you so I don't care what I think of you." Helen Wright in Humoresque

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Law and Order is episodic TV, right? Not feature length movie-making which is totally different.


But I like it Like that is[/w] a full length feature film, or did you miss that when you read my first post? Point being, she is a [i]director and she's hardly new at it.

As for the Blues not being about sex, yes, they sang about poverty, etc. but the alo sang about sex. Plus, the music not necessarily the lyrics) was sexual. Why do you think Geneva invited Muddy up to her apartment to have sex after hearing him play?

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