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what did she tell to that old woman (or bitch) about afterlife?


She told her something that lead to her suicide, what was it?

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She said "You are pleasantly welcomed into the afterlife. Kill yourself now or regret it forever." I lipread it.

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Wasn't it in French?

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she said, don't try to get there before me, i will race you to it, nananannananananannaana.

and that's how she tricked the old bitch and got her revenge!! taraaaaaa!

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...or bitch lmao?. I laughed a little harder than I should have when I read that.

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correction: !

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She told her that there is nothing, making the woman's entire life meaningless.

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This doesn't really make sense, because how would the martyr know this? The only way to know would be to get a vision. Where would this vision come from? Some supernatural/metaphysical force. The vision she receives? There is no metaphysical/supernatural force. Doesn't work does it? It's similar to trying to go back in time to kill parents. What is required to do it negates the ability to do it.

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Tons of assumptions here. First off, there doesn't have to be some supernatural source, you could just say that she reached a special quantum brain state or something. And even if the vision was sent to her by a supernatural force that doesn't have to mean that there's an afterlife. There can be a God/higher power without there being an afterlife and there can be an afterlife without there being a higher power. The concepts do not necessitate each other. It's totally possible that a supernatural force could send her a vision showing her there is no afterlife.

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She said " I'll be back "

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She told her there was no afterlife, it was just a great, dark void. This destroyed extremists' ideology and the old woman killed herself. Doing this, the girl exacted her final revenge and stopped the extremists from torturing more people.

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If it was that easy to beat her, why would the lady assume she would be telling the truth about what she saw? You think it ever occurred to her that she was trying to break her spirit by lying?

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Eh, because she was the martyr. You know, the whole premise of the film.

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Eh, how about going back and re-reading what I said?

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My guess of what Anna said to the Madam is : "Could you imagine what there is after death ?"

In the Madam's point of view, she couldn't imagine what is there after death. So, the only way to be able to know it is you have to "witness" it by yourself either through her death or experience the same torture like she did to Anna.

After asking Etiene : "Could you imagine what there is after death ?"
Etiene also say he couldnt, so Madame told her "keep doubting" as now she knew that to know what is there after death is through those two options. She choose the former, kill herself.

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It wasn't about the short scene in which you see her tell something to the old bitch. That was only a fragment, as the other guy announced to all the others that she gave a statement which lasted about 90 minutes. After that she just kept silent.

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