Over obsessed ? Homoeroticism ?
Dis anyone else find it kind of weird that the villain was obsessing on the hero ? Unlike Rocky, there was no Championship at stake, so what did he want so bad ? a kiss ?
shareI thought the same thing, Ryan was completely obsessed with Jake from the beginning.
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To answer your question seriously:
Ryan has extraordinary mma skills. He beats up all of his opponents easily, and gets bored. He sees Jake as a more challenging opponent, and even a threat to his hegemony (domination). That is why he just wants to fight Jake. Ryan's life is just about fighting, winning, being the best, and humiliating his opponents.
To answer your question jokingly:
Ryan does have a homoerotic obsession for Jake. That is why in the last fight, he enjoys so much grabbing Jake's crotch and lifts him up. Ryan ejaculates right after that moment. That is why he loses the fight.
A lot of guys ejaculate while watching Cam Gigandet in this movie.
Why did he even see Jake as a challenge at the beginning, though? Because he beat up some football players? He had no MMA skills whatsoever.
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He didn't consider him an equal, but Jake was making news for beating the footballers. So he had to squash him right away.
shareGreat feedback guys and I enjoyed the serious soliquee followed by a silly second thought. Think of how great college would be if Professors gave serious followed by silly. I wonder if Directors mistakingly forget what Hitchcock would call the (something I forget but is basically the catalyst for moving the story forward....McGruffin maybe ?) ... or if they purposely allow the film to take such a turn for a wink wink, unreal obsessed direction.
shareSeriously though,if you go to one of the parents of these type of films, Rocky, Mr. T s Clubber only had eyes for Adrian, Tommy Gunn was autistic-like aloof and Drago.....well bad example because Drago did stare Rock down like come to me now. Well the point is, not since Drago has a characterwho supposedly doesnt like the other has a tough guy stared down another with such vigor as Ryan does. He even adds smiles as if flirting, looking at him when finsihing off an opponent as well as when in the crowd watching him barely escape defeat. Fact is, the Ryan fighter was at such a height that his fascination sith a guy who did not appear as skilled seemed peculiar.
shareHey BoSoxRule,
1) Jake beats up the footballers and knocks out his adversary in one punch, in the football field video.
2) In the school basement, Jake is willing to take on 4 mean guys and rushes in to come to the rescue of Max, whom he didn't even know. Jake dodges a punch and connects one of his own.
Those 2 scenes show Ryan that Jake has heart, bravery, agility, flexibility, punching power. Although Ryan doesn't know about what MMA level Jake is at.
Ryan also sees Jake to be of same height, same weight, same frame, same age (which Cam Gigandet and Sean Faris do have in real life). So Ryan sees Jake as a worthy opponent at the beginning.
Once you have the heart, the fire, the speed, the fluidity ... the striking, kicking, blocking, grappling, submission skills come as a matter of training.
In the course of Ryan and Jake encounters, Ryan discovers that Jake's MMA skill are non-existent, but Jake very quickly acquires those skills.
After Ryan sees Jake beat up the three guys riding the yellow Hummer, he feels very nervous and threatened, so he needs to take out Jake as soon as possible and at by all means.
Did you find it a little odd, though, how Jake beats up those Hummer guys but then is taken down so easily by Ryan in the bathroom scene?
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The Yellow Hummer guys are just regular guys, not trained in MMA. You could be all muscular and weight 250 pounds, but you could be beaten in a fraction of a second by a 150 pounds guy who is MMA trained and knows how when and where to strike.
When Jake beats up those 3 guys, he was only at half way of his training. He still could not control his anger nor control the outcome of the fight. Jake was just into a few weeks of MMA training, while Ryan was trained, ingrained, and conditioned to fight, win, and be the best since childhood.
After being humiliated again by Ryan, Jake keeps on training very hard. Jean Roqua personally mentors him from standup skills and ground skills, and mental control, until Jake is ready.
Wow, you really liked this movie, huh?
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I agree. Ryan did kind of pounce on Tyler a bit to much ever since he first saw him. And to the people saying that he saw Tyler as competition, I disagree, yes they saw the video of him beating those players up... but that was completely different fighting used than what Ryan is used to... why did Ryan feel strongly about Tyler getting into this whole club.
Its like to say everyone that has had fights belongs in one of those bare knuckle fighting clubs which is untrue.
Ever since Ryan saw Tyler, it was instinct just to ahve him as his next target as he got bored with beating up everyone else... dont think he thoughtb he wa scompetition though.
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The Yellow Hummer guys are just regular guys, not trained in MMA. You could be all muscular and weight 250 pounds, but you could be beaten in a fraction of a second by a 150 pounds guy who is MMA trained and knows how when and where to strike.
When Jake beats up those 3 guys, he was only at half way of his training. He still could not control his anger nor control the outcome of the fight. Jake was just into a few weeks of MMA training, while Ryan was trained, ingrained, and conditioned to fight, win, and be the best since childhood.
After being humiliated again by Ryan, Jake keeps on training very hard. Jean Roqua personally mentors him from standup skills and ground skills, and mental control, until Jake is ready.
If it's a pro fighter like Roger Huerta beating up some 250 guy then yes.
But you seriously lack any common sense. Tyler just started training MMA.
F'k that. A punk assed 17 year old 169 pound kid who just started taking MMA will not beat up three bigger dudes who looks like thike they have been in street fights themselves.
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Yeah, Ryan clearly was turned on by Jake. When he lifted him up by the crotch, he should've squeezed a little, Jake would pass out, and Ryan would've owned him.
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