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Something that needs to be done more in martial arts movies.


In Undisputed 2 Last Man Standing the "hero" of the story Mike Jai White as Iceman Chambers actually WON the first encounter with Uri Boyka because he was a pro boxer and Boyka tried to beat him at JUST boxing. But as soon as Uri Boyka started using his full martial art arsenal the boxer lost.

Technically he lost because his drinking water was drugged but I believe he would have lost anyway had that not happened though not quite so quickly but we will never know for sure.

I think it would be cool as hell in a movie like this if the good guy was a BOXER and a damned good one and the villain made the mistake of trying to take him at JUST boxing and got pounded for it THEN the villain switches to MMA and ALL the hero knows how to to is box and the hero gets overwhelmed and beaten (but beaten fairly no drugs like Undisputed 2), and have the movie be about the hero learning other martial arts to supplement his boxing while he is taunted and bullied by a villain who keeps rubbing in how the boxing is not enough against him in a fight.

That would be cool.

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Is that not what this movie did?
Jake comes in as a kid who knows how to throw some decent punches, but knows nothing about kicks and ground game. Ryan even taunts him with, "That old school boxing doesn't fly around here, you gotta mix it up (MMA)."
By the end of the film, Jake actually becomes a decent grappler and uses that mainly to defeat Ryan. While the "good guy" still won, the theme of him not knowing anything but punching and needing to train at an MMA gym is the whole point of this movie in terms of fighting.

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