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So, basically, Summer thought Tom was ugly and too weak for her...

posted 10 years ago by xman_01
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And he probably made around $30,000 a year or so at his *beep* card writing job and he probably sucked in bed also, not to mention he was a stage 5 clinger. I can't think of any other reason two people that have so much in common wouldn't work out in the end.

On a side note, I love the part in the end when Tom says that he "quit the office" and Summer says "that's great!" or whatever. In my mind I was thinking "So now you're unemployed? What's so great about that?"

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[–] hurricanehorton 10 years ago

Having a lot of interests in common doesn't necessarily equate to making a good couple. Sure, it helps, but Tom and Summer's one difference was a big one. They wanted different things out of a relationship. That problem is never going to be overcome because they like the same bands.

[–] larma7 10 years ago

It's more likely she just wasn't that into him, for whatever reason. But he was way into her. That's the real problem. Not that they didn't have a good thing going for a while, but she never developed stronger feelings for him , like she apparently did for the other guy. That's the end of it.

Tom is a very good looking guy by most standards, I'd imagine. But there is more to it than that obviously. If you want a scene that explains why it didn't work out, watch the bar brawl scene.

[–] blindvias-071407 10 years ago

Near the beginning we were told they spent a lot of time fighting so that might have been a clue that all was not rosy.

In the end she ran into Tom at one of his favorite outdoor hangouts, so clearly he was on her mind. And then she held his hand before she walked away. This almost seemed as though she longed for the fun times they had, and maybe even had second thoughts about passing on him. But by then they both knew that they could do no more than to wish each other happiness.

[–] LukeLovesFilm28 10 years ago

Modern men and women refuse to make compromises and settle to please someone they're with. They want everything to come easy, all the time. It's not a wise way to approach an intimate relationship. The real world does not work like you want it to all the time. You're pretty sh!tty to expect another human being to be all that you want, all the time.

[–] washcloud 9 years ago

You don't seem to understand women well enough.
"Make a pass at him"...? She was happily married and expecting a baby.

Women can love men and part ways with them AND keeping feeling love without being "in love". Men on the other hand, if they break up, generally either lose TOTAL interest or simply turn love into hate.

Summer did generally feel for Tom, gave it a shot for various months, but in the end what she got as a feeling from their relationship wasn't ENOUGH for her. What she lacked, she found with her future husband.
Modern women are typically like that in a high percentage.

Memory is a wonderful thing if you don't have to deal with the past

[–] Jelly-4 9 years ago

It's more likely she just wasn't that into him, for whatever reason. But he was way into her. That's the real problem.

Yep, that's it. Her saying she doesn't want something serious really meant "I'm not interesting in something serious with you."

She was engaged shortly thereafter.

[–] Olahn 8 years ago

Time is also a big factor... Summer with Tom, her mind wasnt set on settling down and starting a family... she was looking for fun and someone to hang out with.

Time passes... the next person she hooked up with obviously she was more picky... she was at a stage where she wants a family and a home.. so she looked for the guy specifically.

TIME is a big factor... our mind changes according to time.

[–] patrickbohn 10 years ago

I can't think of any other reason two people that have so much in common wouldn't work out in the end.

As Tom's sister said, just because someone likes the same stuff as you doesn't make you soulmates.

On a side note, I love the part in the end when Tom says that he "quit the office" and Summer says "that's great!" or whatever. In my mind I was thinking "So now you're unemployed? What's so great about that?"

Except he explicitly told her that he didn't want to be a greeting card writer. And since she wasn't there to see his meltdown and he used the word "quit" rather than "fired", she quite logically came to the conclusion that Tom made his own decision to walk away from something he didn't like. Which is pretty great, even if unemployment sucks.

[–] MoDo12 9 years ago

Tom was fine for her, but he came on too easy. Her hubby gave her his number, waited 5-days to call her back (between every date, and she was attracted to him), basically played the "new school" game on how to build attraction with anyone.

Regardless, she was never really into Tom, it was just convenient for the time being and it was EASY for her, he was also her emotional gay male boyfriend / tampon.

((Ive been on 51 dates over 14 months, I've learned a few things about women))

Tom ended up with a far better catch in the end, same career focus, way hotter, more in common - welcome to the dating scene!!

[–] OutForAWalkB-tch 8 years ago

The "that's great!" was because now he could pursue something he was passionate about. He was clearly in a rut at the greeting card place, just coasting along without any motivation.

Also...they just didn't click for her. Had nothing to do with money or looks or how he was in bed. She just wasn't feeling it, which is a 100% legit reason to not want to be with someone. The spark has to be felt by both people.

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