I missed the first 15 min of the movie i dont know if i missed anything but can anyone tell me why he received the redbelt at the end of the movie?
"Sticks and stones may brake your bones but a 50ft fall will kill ya" FP
nothin in the first 15 minutes answered that
it was because he was a nobody fighter and he made his way past the main attraction fighter who was apparently the asian guys student so he honoured him by giving him the belt
Actually the "Champion" fighter was the son of the old man "Red-Belt" who was actually supposed to be Brazilian, and on top of that would have also been Mike's father in-law (If I caught it right in the movie, the "Champion" was Mike's wife's older brother).
About the only thing you would catch, provided you already don't have an understanding of the traditional BJJ belt earning methods, was that you don't test like you would in a traditional martial art like TKD or Karate, but how you are always under the instructors eyes, always being tested. When the instructor feels you are ready for an increase in belt rank, that's when they will hand a student the new belt, much in the way as when Mike gives the cop his black belt, and how Mike earns his red-belt. This is one of the main reasons it can take so long for a student to achieve the black blet in BJJ which through most real camps can take an average of ten years.
And I think Mike earning the red-belt wasn't for defeating the "Champion" straight up, but was more for bringing honor to the sport when it was obviously corrupted.
I don't think the Grandmaster gave Mike the belt because he brought honor to the "sport", but because he brought honor to the art. The fighter he defeated was only in it for the money as he himself stated, disappointing Mike, who always kept his integrity intact when it came to what the "old man" taught him (and the other fighter) with out selling out. The Master recognized this and awarded him, like Mike did in the beginning with the police officer student and the black belt.
shareSame difference between the Art & sport as BJJ stands. I meant it as the whole, so yes I should have stated for bringing Honor to the Art, instead of the sport.
I've speant too many years in BJJ now and look at it as more of a sport versus an art from a competition standpoint. Thanks for reminding me it is and always will be an art!
Please don't call me a moron or dumb for not understanding, but how did the "old redbelt" know that Mike was fighting for honor? I mean, how did he know they didn't just get in a scuffle about something totally stupid? I don't understand the art nor am I usually interested in martial arts movies, but I really liked this movie. Just didn't understand the presentation of the redbelt completely. Thanks in advance for any insight.
"I know, I know... It's only a movie."
"Please don't call me a moron or dumb for not understanding, but how did the "old redbelt" know that Mike was fighting for honor? I mean, how did he know they didn't just get in a scuffle about something totally stupid?"
No, that's a good question.
Here's the answer = it was a terrible movie. Terrible terrible movie.
Your question is along hte same lines of "why did the wife keep the bullet casing? Did she somehow know she would need it in the future to make a deal with some actors that she didn't even know she would ever meet - JUST to sell out her husband so she could make a clothing deal with said actor's wife?"
The movie was stupid. He gets BOTH belts (one of which he immediately gives away, just like everything else. Seriously, who gives away a $20,000 watch when the guy who gave it to you just invited you over to dinner? YOU WEAR THE WATCH). Sorry, he gets both belts just for winning some hallway fight which would have been immediately broken up?
I'm done ranting. This movie just pissed me off.
He mentions early on that there is only one red belt. He doesn't actually explain that red belt is for the grand master/founder of the system (not so in all MA's). presumably the GM (professor) thought he encompassed the whole philosophy of his teachings and the system and so felt Terry was the guardian and keeper of the way.
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