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The ending was great! WTF is wrong with the people today


I don't know what in the blue hell is wrong with some people today!? Acting like some logical movie-reporters telling us how this was bad and this was good.

The ending was crap? Why? Because it had a happy ending?
Because it is telling us something about moral and believe in ourselfs and in good things.

"oh myyy gooood it was so cheesy and unrealistic"
If you want some realistic *beep* go and watch Big Brother!

Movies are here to entertain us AND (often) to tell us a message. Maybe some things are very hard to achive and some things are very common.

This ending was great. It was a feel-good ending. He believed in his "thinking" and he got honored.
So what?

Should he get beaten up by this guy in the end? Simply running into the ring, tellin everyone its fake and go?
Wow, what a *beep* peace of *beep* ending!

The ending was great. It made you feel good and it told you:
The the right thing (in what you believe) and you will get honored someday (maybe)

Screw these "realistic" wannabe movie-pros here.
F+cking ridiculous

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Theres always one *beep* who comes on the board voicing their opinion on how great the movie was.

YOU ARE PATHETIC MR.

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bobbyh2,

make that two.

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movie was fantastic, had me thinking the whole way through... and then at the end, wow, what a great ending.

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Uh, this movie was marketed to fans of "UFC", but slammed the "UFC". what did it make, a couple of million total. at least they found a few suckers who went in with blinders on, and left with their head up their arse. Terrible, and the box office proves it....2.3 million box office lololololololololololololololol

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yes i agree owenandowen. Titanic was one of the greatest movies ever made

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Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

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Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

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Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

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Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

Actually I didn't like Titanic either. There are idiots on both sides of the box office. Titanic was driven by a historic event that had the novelty of a large scale recreation that got peoples interest, not to mention the chick flick aspect that pretty much every guy was forced into going to or get cut off from the kitty kitty.

Ad Nauseam.

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$2.3 million may not have been the huge failure you are so quick to ridicule. Careful about making a point so boldly, when there could be info that you do not have that can completely change the picture.

EVERY actor in this film did it for scale pay. Even Tim Allen. That's the lowest base wage that can be earned by an actor in SAG. It's not much, especially to those used to making a few million. More and more big money actors are willing to do take cuts in pay like that, in order to work with specific directors and writers that they admire and respect, and who are in a position to make a film that is, though low budget and less accessible to the public, true to their vision.

The writers and directors of these independant films often get to make THEIR film, on THEIR terms. Good or bad, in the opinions of critics and viewers, the beauty of these types of films are that they are as pure to the directors vision as is possible in the modern world of movie-making.

Not so, with the big budget movies being cranked out by the huge film companies. The writer and director doesn't have the last say on edits and cuts, which is why there are so many "Director's Cuts" being put out on DVD. THAT is the version the director would have wanted the audience to see, if he had the power to make that happen. Unfortunately that gets taken away as the movie companies take the film upon "completion" and then incorporate changes in line with what the the "market" wants, e.g., the average movie-goes doesn't want to sit for much more than 2 hours... 2 1/2 at the most... in the theater. Chop, chop, slice. This scene isn't imperative to the story. Chop.

Directors and writers have some big battles leading up to what the audience sees, as they fight for what they feel are important pieces to the movie from the perspective of the artist's vision, where as the movie "business" people simply view it as, does it fit the mold of what people will want and expect from a particular movie. It may need 3 hours to tell the story properly, in the view of the director, but those length films are usually reserved for the "epic" tales.

One of the best examples is "Dances With Wolves". It came to audiences at right around the 3 hour mark, but Kevin Costner really felt he needed closer to 4 hrs to tell the story the way he felt it would be most effective. Not a chance that was going to happen. BUT you can buy his Director's Cut, and it's 4 hours long. And I admit it... it's long, but so much more fulfilling and enriching once you see all the parts that got cut out of the original, and that fill in so many holes that you may not have thought much about at the time, but once you watch the extra footage, you're so happy to have the extra info, background and scenes to fill in and enhance the gaps that existed.

Also, keep in mind that small, independent movies do not have huge budgets for marketing and advertising and do not get shown on thousands of screens across the nation. Here in Colorado, I'm betting it was probably shown on 2 screens. One in Denver, one MAYBE in Colo Springs.

Long live the low-budget film. They are not made for the general audiences out there. They are many times a little off-center in some way, and like I said before... good or bad in the eyes of the critics and audience, they are typically true to the creator's vision of how that particular film should be made... which means... they sometimes don't make complete sense immediately, sometimes they are poorly executed, sometimes they are brilliant in their obscureness or element of "open to interpretation."

One thing is for sure... it certainly sparks debate. And that is always a good thing. When was the last time there was intense back and forth banter (unless it's over errors typically) over movies like Spiderman, Transformers, or Die Hard.

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I think a prob is with movies like these is most people expect them to be a straight out action movie but this was less action and more story plus character development than many probably expected . Many probably thought it sucked because it wasn't more like "Never Back Down" . I liked it so much because it was NOT like Never Back Down or other straight out action flicks like Mortal Kombat , etc.

I found this movie to be a pleasant surprise , especially the ending which I thought was done *perfectly* . Some people want everything spelled out for them and don't want anything left open ended . I thought this was a wonderful little gem of a movie and I'll definitely buy it when it comes out on DVD.

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The reason I didn't like the ending was because Mike makes such a huge effort to get to the ring to speak his mind. Then when he finally gets there, the movie ends before we get to hear him speak and expose the people involved. After watching him go through everything he did to get to the ring, I wanted to hear him speak his mind.

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Here's my issue: So Mike is dusting guys left and right to get to the ring so he can tell everyone about the fight-rigging, but before he can say anything the professor and the other fighters bow before him and give him the belts. What I don't get is why. You'd assume they didn't know the fights were rigged, otherwise they wouldn't have gone along with it, so what motivated them to do that? If you didn't know what was going on, it just looked like a fighter beating the hell out of a bunch of people outside of the ring, apparently just to be a disruption. It seemed odd that they would honor him like that without even knowing why he was doing what he was doing...

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If Mike was Joe six pack who wandered off the street and into the event to start a brawl perhaps he would have recieved the 2 belts for his consumate fighting skills alone, after all he fought hand to hand "fairly", but the 2 men who awarded Mike their belts knew of Mike. Why do you think the promoters pushed for him to be on the bill, because of his reputation as a skilled fighter. He also had a reputation for upholding the code of honor associated with the art, which was mocked by those around him, so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they knew of this too. Mike may have studied directly under "the Professor". So they were not aware of any rigged fights at the event, but they chose to trust Mike's actions as being justified and honorable given his deserved reputation. Of course all of this is not spelled out, one of David Mamet's key attributes as a filmaker.

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Yes, perfectly stated. I'd add that Mike kept calling out "Professor!" as he tried to get to him to talk. He needed to tell the professor something important and nothing was going to stop him.

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Well Said, But IMDB lets Any one of age join...Like Bobbyh and the other
Anal Assassins.

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I loved the ending, when he got his Red belt, I was like OMG! Lol

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The professor at the end gave him a red belt so he wouldn't expose the fixed matches, but to Terry, it was a great honor, so it was a win win situation for the IFA and Terry, a double happy ending.

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I showed this to my movie group three years ago and it was well liked. I'm going to show it again this month.

Life, every now and then, behaves as though it had seen too many bad movies

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