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Did Mike learn Jiu Jitsu from books?


In Ebert's review, he comments: "...and he apparently studied this art from those little pamphlets with crude illustrations that used to be advertised in the back pages of comic books."

I have to wonder: Do experienced martial artists ever actually make use of such publications, or is their experience gained solely from hands-on training?

It was kinda weird to me to see him trying out moves from diagrams.
Reminded me of Ralph Macchio in The Karate Kid before he hooked up with Mr. Miyagi.

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I've trained in BJJ for a bunch of years & it seems everybody learns from whatever materials they can find.You must train hands-on.In Brazilian jiu jitsu it's all hands-on training.My black belt instructor hones his skills training with other black belts & with rambunctious lower belts.The character of Mike Terry didn't seem to have any kind of 'network' going with other instructors.

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Ebert is a fat blow-hard first of all. Don't believe a thing he says. Mike was a ranked black belt and you can only get that bestowed on you by another black belt (as seen in the movie). Brazilian Jiu Jitsu has a very specific culture that rose to prominence through so called 'dojo challenges' involving full-on fights with other instructors. In this spirit, one could never get away with declaring themselves a blackbelt with an academy without it being awarded by a recognised instructor that thay had trained with directly. It just wasn't mentioned in the movie as it would have done nothing for the plot. However, people who have trained will often use reference books as just that.. a reference. Also, the specific part you are referring too was actually him looking at a manual for filipino martial arts-- a weapon based system popularized by Dan Inosanto (bruce lee's top student and the actor that played 'the professor'). Of course, this was not made clear by Mamet who I honestly think was making a movie for people already involved in this culture (who obviously wouldn't need such clarifications) as opposed to making something palpable for the masses. That is characteristic of Mamet and is why I think he is such a polarizing figure in the entertainment industry.

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no mike learned from dan inosantos character in brazil that is how i recon he met his wife.
the books were not jui jitsu but a way to show case dan inosantos actual background you seen him looking at a book of escrima and filipeno martiala rts dan inosanto is not brazilian like the movie makes him out to be he filipeno and his base art is escrima or filipeno stick fighting he was obvously learning stick fighting and
yes respected martial artist do read books like that. just because you dont have someone to walk you through the technique doesnt mean you cant learn them bruce lee was one man who had thousands of said books that is how he experimented with martial arts when he had injured himself doing a goodmorning he studies those books learning new techniques with out lifting a finger

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