Why didn't she tell the husband she was raped?
I just cant figure out a reason why she didnt say anything.
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exactly. Thats not something you dont tell someone. ALl she had to do was say "Hey Honey, my ex boyfriend and his friend raped me." Even if they didnt report it to the police i still think she should have told him.
shareWho knows how he would have reacted - maybe she was frightened (or ashamed). But you're right, they probably gave her some form of STD and she should have told him.
shareto me personally this was the most frustrating part of the movie. I wished she would have told him. Was it me or did she somewhat seem to be ha;f enjoying it with Charlie. She said No and STop a lot but once it started happening there was really no fight and at times actually looked like she was beginning to fall for him again. Then the shame after and then the second guy came out of no where. I just was confused by how she felt during and the end of the film. How awkward was the ending. She had to be in shock but he just touched her shoulder and walked out while she seemed sad charlie was dead...
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****here be the reason why she didn't say anything****
She felt like she brought it on herself. Her husband told her to dress less provocatively and instead, she flashed the lot of them her goods and prizes.
So she just (wrongfully) assumes that he will act the same way once he finds out that she was tempting them.
no, i disagree.
she told her husband they were all eye fu**ing her on her run, and he basically said it was her fault, more than once, like 3 times, 3 different ways...
What do you think his response would have been to her telling him they raped her... oh, yeah, probably the same as other folks here who are all like "she flashed them, so she asked for it"
never mind the flashing them was basically an amped up version of "take a picture, it'll last longer". it was an act of defiance, and a way of her telling them to fu** off.
completely agreed with camel-wides. Point by point.
I agree with camel-wide also...and as for her not objecting...one..her hand was trying to stop his hand! And two...she was trying to stay calm andshow him how wrong he wss acting... hoping her old boyfriend would feel ashamed and stop! Dont forget he was not a stranger...But her horror at the the other guy was becuase he was just acting like a rapist.
shareSuper frustrated aswell that she didnt come forward & down right confused at the grieving over the guy that just raped her & allowed his friend to do so too
shareNot saying makes the viewer more emotional keep you waiting if she is going to tell him. This makes you attach to the movie more. Even after movie.
Despite the shame and all that camelwise said, I'm thinking that if the marriage is ever going to survive all that - she has to tell him. An event that traumatic cannot be hidden forever.
After David had descended to the base depths of his own being, and since as a writer he should understand humanity and its shortcomings, he should be open to a frank admission of what happened to her while he was being lied to about hunting. They were both victims of the deceptions, assaults, and violence of Charlie, Coach et al - a good counseling session would be very helpful.
I see several reasons why she didn't mention it to him.
1. Guilt/Shame - She feels part responsible, like the poster said above, she did "flash" her goods to these guys. Does that mean she deserved rape... no. But it sure didn't help.
2. Fear- She probably thought nothing good could come from telling her husband. She feels that part of him will blame her, and even if he goes ballistic on the guys, all it will get is her husband killed.
3. Anger - She blames her husband. Yes, she may have internalized this to the point of ... if her husband was more "manly man" that these guys would of respected him more not to gang bang his wife.
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A lot of rape victims don't tell anyone, the percentage of victims who don't is very high. It's a mixture of fear, shame, and wanting to pretend it didn't happen by blocking it out. I can imagine it's a pretty horrific thing to go through, and when you tell someone your reminded of it every time you look at that person, because people have a way of not letting you forget, even by a simple look in their eye. There's a period of denial afterwards as well, and the fear of not being believed is terrifying. It takes a lot of courage and strength to speak out. Had she told her husband he would have been different with her. He would have been extremely sad, and angry (at them), and the awkward tension would be so obvious to her that it would make her feel worse. He would probably be very distant and sad, so by not telling him she doesn't have to feel rejected or shamed or even guilty (which is stupid I know but rape victims tend to feel a lot of those feelings).
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i thought that was very stupid, her not telling him. no other way to say it. it ruined the movie for me. him killing all those men for the tard is so stupid. if she would have told him right before he they broke in, like "i dont want them to get me again, they raped me!" and he started the killing, this movie would have been classic. as it stands, 3 out of 10
shareHe gave her very little reason to make her feel secure about telling him. Some of you sound like much bigger tards than Purcell did in this movie. Her actions seem relevant to how someone would react outside a movie context.
shareas a movie goes, having a rape scene like that, then doing nothing with it was such a wasted opportunity. thats like, lets say the original day of the woman, or i spit on your grave if you like. if you seen it then you remember right before andy starts beating jennifer down, stanley starts making fun of her writing. lets say when jennifer gets her revenge, shes not gettn revenge because they brutally gang raped her, shes getting revenge because they disrespected her writing. what im getting at is i figured that rape scene in straw dogs was the anchor we needed to not only despise the roofers, but it was the stepping stone for the husband to take care of his own. i hate thinking he killed everybody to protect the tard. this movie sucked, and its arm and arm with hangover 2 as the worst movie of 2011
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Rape was not just a breaking point for Amy but in a way for David too (hence the film's tagline). Think he must have felt something really bad is going on. It wasn't about protecting the tard, it was about him becoming the king of his castle.
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I think she kinda enjoyed the first guy's rape because she was cheating on her husband with her ex boyfriend (or at least thought about cheating) and perhaps it felt that her ex boyfriend was much more powerful than her husband and she was having mixed feelings about all of this.
That was probably the main reason.
Now I don't remember how much time passed between the rapes and her flashbacks when she was at that event. It probably takes a lot of time (I mean A LOT of time) for some rape victims to tell others. It is an embarrassing issue no matter what, but it is even harder for her to tell her husband "I was raped by my ex, and it might have been better than anything in our marriage."
Also I am not sure if the husband caught on. It makes him look even weaker, and that is probably why he colorfully killed them. He tried to stall the other guys by playing the SAME music that was on when she was raped and so he might have figured it out.
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I think it was a mix of both guilt and fear. She felt guilty because she flashed a bunch of drunk guys that thought she was hot and then they acted on their urges, as people above have mentioned. I think she didn't tell her husband because she felt maybe he would've done something stupid and then gotten a severe beating or something and was trying to protect him from that (the fear part). So hence, she tries to get the husband to try to have a kid with her so that way she can hide the fact that she was raped and could pretend the kid was his.
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While I found it incredibly frustrating that she didn't tell him or the authorities or insist on leaving, it's pretty obvious why she didn't tell him. She told him about the guys ogling her and her blamed her, told her to wear a bra. Message sent. That's why she calls him a coward. He's too much of a pussy to stand up for his wife and blames her rather than man up and confront those guys. What was he, in her mind, likely to say to her after she tells him she's been raped?
Its not stupid if you really think about it. Her husbend was a wuss to those guys from the get go. Thats probably why she didn't tell him, because he was to weak to defend her. This film is about survival of the fittest, and in the end her husband proved he was not weak.
shareSame reason she didnt in the original - retardness.
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What could be gained by telling her husband?
In her mind he already blamed her for the harassment.
In her mind he showed his cowerdice over the cat.
He would not seek revenge but instead she would have to go to the police.
If going to the police, her past relationship comes out, her flashing the guys comes out, and as an outsider, many would believe Charlie that she wanted it. Even reading the boards here. alot of people question the rape and they saw it.
In addition, she grew up there, and everyone would think badly of her.
So telling her husband would only force her to relieve it(probably to no avail), and she might possibly be blamed by her husband.
She wanted to get out of the house and leave the place but the husband demanded they will stay because "He wont be scared out of his house". telling him about the rape may have changed his mind and they would have left.
going to the police is not a bad thing. even if all would be clear, which does not necessarely have to be, they still commited a crime and should be jailed for it, reardless of what a few locals would think. She did grew up there, but it did not seem to have a very strick bond (some was shown in the original, in the remake almost no bond with town was shown). People question the rape they saw in the movie because the movie indicated that she liked it. She doesnt have to tell the judge she enjoyed being raped now does she? And the guy stating such a thing wouldnt go good for him either.
Husband blaming his wife for the rape that was clearly organized by the loclas (leaving him in forest hunting while they go after his wife) would be unreasonable and i dont see any woman with a brain wanting a husband like that.
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she didn't fight back(at all) and was not injured, she didn't collect any "evidence" so it is not likely to put anyone in jail
i didn't watch original or read book or anything but in this version, i get the feeling that the city smart & pretty boy is supposed to be the audience's substitute and have the audience on his side since we're more like him (popcorn eaters are mostly weak including myself)
the wife and all other characters are not on his level, he is better than all of them including his wife. it's not a family film, it's a man's fantasy, like mel gibson getting revenge in all his movies, punisher style
he doesnt lose his cool and be a bitch when being pushed by his wife, he stays calm and have principles, he is too good for her, so we need not feel bad about the wife getting raped because this is a man's film, he can divorce her and get someone like janice if he wanted (i think he's a bit interested in an upgrade)
they're all trash but this man is kick ass
Ive seen people jailed on a word of a known prostitute screaming rape without any evidence. It is not really that hard to convict someone. And i dont agree on your view in the film in general.
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daddygot blues you do realise Both of the guys came inside her right. 2 traces of semen can put both guys in jail for rape. Not to mention th husband couldve explained how he was tricked to be out hunting in a non hunting season while everyone else was gone
shareshe made the choice not to collect any, either that was a choice or just post traumatic effect
sharei think it all goes back to where she referred to him (david) as a "coward". maybe she thought 'hes not a killer, he wouldnt do anything but get his ass kicked by charlie anyways'. which as it turned out, she was right. (que the fight scene b/t charlie & david)
the whole point of the movie, IMO, was that charlie was the more dominate physical male. whereas david proved to be the savy/intelligent male. but toe to toe, charlie was the superior male. hence the bear trap.
in the end... david used his wits & proved to his wife she was wrong about him.
Charlie was superior in height and strength only. David was superior in earning capability, writing ability, and perhaps intelligence (albeit Charlie seemed to have intelligence, too).
And David perhaps proved his superior intelligence by using all the defense weapons at his disposal, including the bear trap.
David was also quite strong. He opened that bear trap alone; whereas it took two men to open it before.
Animal strength does not mean superiority. It only means more muscle mass.
trap was already propped open for display.
david wouldn't have had to open it.
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Judging by her reaction when he walked in the room, I do think she wanted to tell him at one point. However, it seemed to me that she felt he would automatically know something was wrong because the guys were supposed to be hunting with him, and she was in bed.
And when he coldly asks her, "What are you doing in bed ? ", I guess that made her even more uninterested in telling him.
I think she didn't say anything from a combination of fear and hopelessness. I also felt deep down she didn't respect her husband; like she felt he was incapable of protecting her.
She knows he's not a confrontational person, she knew he was apprehensive in approaching the guys, and at one point he even scolded for interfering in the fight between the coach and Jeremy. She probably felt he wouldn't do anything to hurt them.