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MAJOR PLOT HOLE THAT WAS NEVER MENTIONED


Why the fu*k where they down there in the first place?
Why was the city of ember built?

I doubt it was pollution or natural disaster; because it seemed a pretty healthy environment that they portrayed on earth, actually now that I think of it I regret watching a movie so pointless, even though it was kinda fun.

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You obviously don´t know what a plot hole is. Go to school.

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Really?
Why don't you educate me then and show your knowledge rather than showing such foolishness in your comment?

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Thats right, but dont be so rude, pal! Maybe he's reflecting some kind of brain hole...

And by the way, explanations can be ommited sometimes, pal. Use your imagination, please (or do you have a brain hole too?)

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Does it matter? Whatever happened, happened and the story is about leaving the city.

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First sentence in the movie mentions the doomsday or something. I don't know how is it said in english, because I saw the film in my language, and there was said that the City of Ember built because of the End of Days, maybe nuclear war.

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Also both in the movie and the book, there is crack on the "ground ceiling" where you can see the citylights below. So if it were nuclear fallout, that would have seeped in from the crack and cause radiation sickness. I can think of a few reasons - firstly, the crack on the ground likely wasn't meant to be there, if it was meant to protect the inhabitants of whatever was going to happen outside. There were likely man made cracks with filters to provide fresh air. So it's possible this large crack was caused by an outside force, but just as well it could have been heavy erosion or some of the abnormally large animals creating the opening.

Few reasons for the City to be built:
-A huge pandemic. The book mentions a "deadly cough" outbreak that had hit the city, the 7th mayor was trying the open the box before the timer had counted down, hoping it would contain a cure. He died suddenly however, before he could inform anyone of the importance of the box, and that's how the box got lost originally.

-The scientists had done what is thus far considered impossible and predicted a supernova / pulsar event in our "galactic backyard" ahead of time, which would destroy our whole ecosystem and kill everyone on Earth in minutes due to massive amounts of gamma and x-ray radiation.. Depending on the galactic event the whole solar system can be sterilized of life completely, and possibly even an underground city, at least one dug in as shallow ground as Ember was, couldn't possibly survive it. 200 years wouldn't be nearly enough for the ecosystem to recover as either of these events could completely destroy the ozone layer and even possibly blow away our atmosphere. A quick note on this - if you see the sky suddenly turn violet at day, do your holy rites if you have any and prepare to say goodbye to the world as we know it.

-In line with galactic events, they maybe had predicted an asteroid collision, one large enough to cause an extinction event. In this case, two hundred years would possibly be sufficient for a "nuclear" winter ( a decrease in global temperatures due to sky being obstructed and sunlight blocked in massive quantities of earth, ash, the stuff flying up to the upper atmosphere ) to pass. Still, it's uncertain how long it would take the ecosystem to recover from the prolonged global winter to the state of being able to grow grass, trees and support farming.

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In, I think, People of Sparks book, it say that The Disaster happened around the city was completed. I think that it was an all-out war and the Americans thought, that to protect civilization, they built a city underground that could last 200 years(but they don't get out until year 241). The hole in the ground, which is supposed to be a cave, was used in the Builders constructing the City.

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It didn't take long for Hiroshima and Nagasaki to recover. People were living back there after only a couple of months after the atomic bomb exploded in 1945. They are thriving cities today.

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True but what Kone51 said up^ there , that if a nuclear war broke out, then radiation from it would have contaminated Ember through the hole. In the second book, there are other people in the world but a nuclear war would have killed alot more than Hiroshima and Nagasaki and not as nearly as many as it is today or before The Disaster happened

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I think it might have been a Virus or Impact but some interesting post here.



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Not an impact of an meteor or asteroid because the countries are earth were getting near a all-out war so it was definitely man-made. I don't know about a virus, because it would have contaminated the water, so then the water in Ember would have been contaminated also

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They probably saw the nuclear war coming (tensions worsening between nations with nukes etc) and created the city as an arc. Much like the Vaults in the Fallout games. In real life, during the cold war, the USA had a fallout selter (not a whole city, just a shelter) for the members of the government (it was featured in an episode of "Cities of the underworld" documentary series), just in case a nuclear war with the Soviets happened.

The twist in CoE is that the builders created a city that was technologically behind, so that the people wouldn't know about the technology that caused the nuclear war. At least that's what i got from the intro.

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It didn't take long for Hiroshima and Nagasaki to recover. People were living back there after only a couple of months after the atomic bomb exploded in 1945. They are thriving cities today.


Fat Man and Little Boy were both quite small bombs with around 20kts each, people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were even able to survive the bombings and moved back into their cities extremely quickly (as they had nowhere else to go). To put that into perspective during the height of the Cold War the USSR developed a nuclear bomb that had a power of 50,000kts which would likely have killed anyone within 60 miles and caused damage to buildings hundreds of miles away from the testing site. Thankfully only one was ever set off (as a test) but if an exchange of Soviet Tsar Bombas and US B41s had ever happened it would most certainly have wiped out most of the life on earth, and those bombs were 50 years ago so who knows what we would be capable of now if countries were still investing so much into the research and development.

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Did 250 years after they were down there not make nay sense? Something happened that even the book didn't go in-depth about they wanted to wait till the world got better before letting it up. At least watch the whole movie before making a post about a plot hole.

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I assumed some world-scale nuclear war, which would "explain" (in movie logic) the huge creatures as mutations due to radiation. The beginning of the movie makes it pretty clear that something awful has happened (don't tell them so they won't know what they've lost) and that it will take hundreds of years for it to become safe on the surface again.

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