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Ok, so the whole premise of the movie is that Bubble Boy is sent in to the last 8-minutes of a dead persons memory. I know this because it is blatantly explained in the movie. Then how is Bubble Boy able to go and see things and places that were not visited in the last 8-minutes of the dead guy's memory?

I suppose it's possible that the dead guy once stopped off at the station and used the bathroom that Bubble Boy followed the first suspect to, although not in the dead guys's last 8-minutes since we know he was in the train explosion. But how can he follow the guy to the white van, see things and go to a place (the parking lot where the van was parked) if the dead guy whose memory he is accessing was never there, especially in the last 8-minutes of his life?

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oh, wow .. good questions pal.

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Simple....he's not just in Fentress' (the dead guy) memories-he's ACTUALLY LIVING the experience (albeit in an alternate universe/reality/timeline); hence the changed outcome and ultimately prevented train bombing.


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Ok, so you're telling me that the dead guy's brain is actually a gateway to an alternate universe/reality/timeline??

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Combined with the Source Code device; YES.
But neither Colter, Goodwin or the rest of the audience realize this until the end of the film.

Rutledge is still unaware of the true capabilities of his device since Goodwin never tells him about the text she receieves from Coulter in the timeline which the commuter train bombing never happens.


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The movie has a plot hole?!?
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That's kind of dumb. I feel violated just like after watching The Prestige. You go through this whole movie of reality and plausible "logic" and then boom, nope, Tesla built a cloning/transporting machine lol.

I do thank you for your response though!

Sorry if you never saw The Prestige, but it's like 7 years old so I didn't think I'd be spoiling anything.

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Ho ho, wait a few more seconds, please. What if Source Code is an incredibly sophisticated program, which creates a virtual world constructed by the collective memory of all the passengers on the train during their last 8 minutes before the explosion combined with all data available on the internet today, like google-maps with streetview, phone-numbers, facebook information and so on and so on. Wouldn't such a virtual world create the illusion of entering the real world, 8 minutes before the fatal ending on the train?
Now, assume that such a computer configuration also includes a cunning brain connection to the human remains of a soldier who hardly survived in the Afghanistan war? Wouldn't such a system generate a mixture of personal memories of Colter Stevens, the soldier and the last minutes experience of the deceased passengers? Wouldn't such a soldier, with his brain still functioning, be able to find out the truth about his personal history? And, wouldn't such an intelligent sort of guy, use Source Code to orchestrate a cunning way to port his own 8 minutes after glow into such a magnificent machine as if he would live for ever in this virtual world, encapsulating the world of Beleaguered Castle?

...Credo quia absurdum...

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So you think that the "Source Code" is nothing more than simulation?
If that was the case; then the whole movie was nothing but a waste of time watching Colter's virtual daydream.



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The movie has a plot hole?!?
EVERY FRIGGIN' MOVIE HAS A FRIGGIN' PLOT HOLE!!!!! (¬_¬)

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So you think that the "Source Code" is nothing more than simulation?

Yes.

If that was the case; then the whole movie was nothing but a waste of time watching Colter's virtual daydream.


No! Since Colter Stevens' brain is connected to a highly sophisticated computer system he is able to use camcorders to 'see' his actual real life situation at Beleaguered Castle. Notice that his 'capsule' increases in size, facilitating him more an more space each time he returns from the train-world. This represents his growing awareness about his current situation. At the end the boundaries of this 'capsule/pod' are vanished completely as he can observe himself lying in that 'chamber'. Sure, it's absurd, to realize Colter Stevens' mind persists within "Source Code" and watches his other self, the organic one made of flesh and blood, being dead.


...Credo quia absurdum...

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Did Colter observe himself lying in the chamber? If so, I missed that...

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Did Colter observe himself lying in the chamber? If so, I missed that...

No; only the audience sees Colter (or rather what's left of him) lying in the chamber.


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The movie has a plot hole?!?
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I would expect that most people's brains were blown up to pieces and it's impossible for a "collective memory" to emerge from that mess.

Shaun's brain was specifically chosen, probably because that his body was not as wrecked as others and still had a complete brain left. The part how they retrieved the last 8 minutes' memory from Shaun's brain was unexplained. I highly doubt it's possible to retrieve memory from a dead brain. I feel someone had to rush there at the very minute Shaun's body died but brain still alive. Just like how they keep Cotler's consciousness going - they need to plug in the devices when Cotler's brain was still alive to provide continuing power. That was still plausible as he died in a military hospital where people must have been hunting for source code candidates. But would that be the first thing jumping to a rescuer's mind during a train explosion chaos? To find a complete brain first?

Essentially it's a story about Cotler's consciousness entering Shaun's memory. If we are imagining that the interaction of different people's brain power could create a new world which becomes a "reality", then in future there would be no need for physical functionality and we can all be comfortably lying in coffins creating the worlds we want. This seems to imply a similar world to the "Matrix".








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Correct, dumb premise.
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He was sent to an alternate universe. Each time he dies, he goes to another alternate universe. He figures this out and he goes to another alternate universe, saves the train, stops the bomber, leaves with his girlfriend and starts a new life.

The email is sent to the alternate lady working on an alternate Source Code program.

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First, this is a sci-fi, for Christ's sake!
Second, the sophisticated device is connected to a subconsciousness, which is a whole new world, complete new (parallel, if you wish) Univerese. Haven't you seen "Inception"?
PS Bubble Boy, lol! Also Donnie and Dastan at some Universe.

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I agree about the visiting places the dead guy never visited, but even more than that... how did they connect to a dead guy that was incinerated before they knew about the bombing to begin with? Surely there couldn't have been much DNA left of him, and even if there were some DNA, I'm not sure how that would hold all his memories for the last 8 minutes. Plus, they said they selected one particular passenger because he was the best match in profile out of all the passengers. They didn't say he was the only guy they recovered from the accident. I like this film, but for the love of God, the writers should have come up with something to fill in these two glaring problems before submitting their script. It definitely hurts an otherwise entertaining movie.

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