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Bittersweet ending? Seemed much more bitter

posted 6 years ago by arflexit (2376)
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So like many I was not a fan of the last season. I could see it was going down hill after the first 2 episodes nothing much happened. But really it is supposed to be a "bittersweet ending" but really there was not much sweet along with the bitter.

Really more people should have found out about Jon being a Targaryen by the end of the 1st episode leading to a split of support beginning in the 2nd episode as they prepared for the Night King, at least that way the 2nd episode would not have been so ridiculously boring.

But overall it is not so much about what happened how it was executed so rushed, forced and annoyingly dropped all sense of character development.

The main point that disappointed me;

-Night King way to easy to defeat and forgotten about.
-Jon being a Targaryen was useless, only important for making Dany go crazy
-Dany's crazy flip of a coin mental breakdown. that needed at least 3 episodes to set up such a decent into madness. Plus what is up with the Unsullied and Dothraki seemingly having a re-spawn ability.
-Jon being back at the night's watch? WTF? WHY IS THERE STILL A NIGHTS WATCH, that is just dumb.
-the final counsel of selecting Bran as King was a painful nonsensical jarring scene.
-The suggestion that Bran knew and planned on all of this is disturbing to say the least.
-The suggestion of Dany getting pregnant from Season 7 was completely forgotten about (Much like Euron's fleet in episode 4). how much more would her being pregnant affect Jon's reluctance to kill her, it would actually make sense of why he was having a hard time coming to terms with it. Though that would make it even more tragic.

All of this leads to mostly bitter ending maybe with a few sprinkles of sugar on top.

As cheesy as it sounds I would have preferred a more relatively happy ending, where more characters died but the surviving characters lived on in relative peace and the characters that died having a more satisfying arc, such as Jaime should have died saving Bran from the Night King.

Unlike many I actually sort of like Jon and Dany together. I would have preferred a more Aragon/Arwyn ending for them.

The whole 8 season was a disappointing mess. :(

[–] gater (199) 6 years ago

Sure was. What these idiot writers don't seem to get is that audiences want a happy ending - you give it a shit ending, with Dany and Missandei being killed, DVD sales plummet, ratings plummet.

This could have been the greatest series ever - but the 8th season turned it into a steaming pile of forgettable nonsense.

[–] Fandango (535) 6 years ago

To be fair, the 7th season wasn't great either.

[–] arflexit (2376) 6 years ago

@gater,

I do not think you need a specifically happy ending for it to be satisfying or bittersweet; but there needs to be proper set up for it.

For the example of Dany and Missandei; for Dany here going crazy and then being killed could work if there was a much more elaborated descent into madness; or if her killing a lot of innocents as a result of her targeting Cersei. The way it was though she went out of her way to target innocents and didn't even think of a need to justify it; she basically went from being Abraham Lincoln (goals of freeing and protecting the realm to Joseph Stalin (paranoid, power hungry and murderous) in the span of 2.5 episodes. It just does not work. There would need to be 2 more seasons to fully develop that degree of change. As I have heard elsewhere, foreshadowing does not equal character development.

for Missandei the manner in which Euron's fleet attacked Dany's in episode 4 and the jarring manner Missandei was suddenly captured and at the Red Keep to be executed was just a mess of continuity and logic; plus if Cersei was going to execute her right in front of Dany like that (thus removing any chance of mercy) why not just kill Tyrion too? It makes no sense whatsoever.

[–] Atarimaster (442) 6 years ago

Cersei removing any chance of mercy wasn’t illogical to me. She said "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die" in Season 1 and I’ve never seen her change her mind on that. So while killing Missandei was illogical strategically speaking it wasn’t out of character for Cersei.

I do however agree on the part that while she was at it, she could have killed Tyrion too. Unless she wanted to spare him to give him a much more horrible death later, but that… well, feels like justifying.

[–] arflexit (2376) 6 years ago

Yes, that was the point i was trying to make, thank you for wording it better. It was in character for her to kill Missandei but it made no sense for her to not kill Tyrion while she was at it, since she already accepted the "win or die" mentality might as well take out as many as she could.

Also why in episode 4 why was the scorpion ballistics suddenly nerfed so they could not hit a tiny force and a stationary dragon right outside the gates? We just saw them 3 hit a dragon out of the air from a distance of at least a couple hundred meters. Why not send the Gold Company out and take out that tiny force before the rest of the army arrived? The whole set up was just a logical void. Also, why was the exterior of king's landing suddenly a dessert? It would have made more sense if it was snow. Last season we saw it was green fields. It seems like no thought of continuity was given.