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Arya "its not me"

posted 6 years ago by Lancecam88 (82)
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Why do they keep brining up that line? It was appropriate when it was said the first time, but now it seems more like fan service and a call back to the scene with her father. Why does Arya have such a limited scope on what a Lady can be? She has the examples of Lady Maege Mormont, Lady Yara Greyjoy and Lady Lyanna Mormont, Lady Brienne as Daenarys to show that a Lady is not confined to being in a demure and subservient role. It also is an insult to her identity as a Stark. She is Lord Ned Starks daughter and by default Lady Arya Stark. For a supposed feminist she is written to be somewhat closeminded. Brienne kept the whole " im no lady
" out of shame as she felt unworthy of the title, not out of the scorn than Arya holds for the title. However, Arya takes it as an insult. Marrying Gendry would not take anything away from her and he surely would not force her to give up her warrior ambitions. What are her plans in life? To live out her days as a brutish killer?

[–] whynotwriteme (7811) 6 years ago

I think Arya is in love with The Hound. She would probably have slept with him instead of Gendry if Beric had not showed up and spoiled it the night before the battle. She went with Gendry just because she was desperate to lose her virginity before her possible death.

Now she has forsaken Gendry to travel with The Hound again.

[–] bohemianroxie (2478) 6 years ago

Nope..I don't believe Arya thinks of the Hound that way in the slightest. He's too old.
But they do have much in common and do have a similar goal in mind.
That's more important to both of them than romance.

[–] Alex (1508) 6 years ago

The Hound is like a father to her, you kidding me?

[–] gater (199) 6 years ago

Just because she turned him down doesn't mean they wont end up together by the finale.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 6 years ago

Do you think she secretly lusts after The Hound?

[–] prometheus1816 (1060) 6 years ago

It's to show that a woman can be everything she wants to be. In point of fact, nothing more than a Steroidal Feminist's wet dream.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

She told the Hound she is never coming back to Winterfell. Is she on a death mission to finish off everyone on her list (Cersei), and die doing it?

[–] winslow (1318) 6 years ago

She's gonna find out what's west of Westeros.

[–] goodenough (1) 6 years ago

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

"For a supposed feminist she is written to be somewhat closeminded."

Isn't that what Feminists are?

Maybe she just sees it as a class thing and doesn't want those constraints?

[–] Lancecam88 (82) 6 years ago

When observing Ladies like Lyanna and Yara or Lady Maege Mormont and even Brienne, do they seem constrained by the status. Back in the 1st season who could easily mistaken Lady Maege as a wildling. Did little Lyanna come across as a girl confined by rigid constraints when she rebuffed Sansa's attempt at flattery and niceties?

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Do I think they are constrained? No.

Does Arya feel something like that? Yeah, I think so. But then she is still basically a kid regardless of how many men she has killed.

[–] Lancecam88 (82) 6 years ago

What I am saying is that her supposed idea of what is expected of a Lady, which she is regardless of her protestations, are readily made false by women around her. Lyanna was only 10 and had more rationality then Arya. The point is that there are no constraints and that she can maintain her noble birthright without giving up anything, she can make what she wants of it.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

And what I am saying is that despite that she still feels she does not qualify or doesn't want to qualify. This leads me to believe that she sees it as a social class thing.

She does seem irrational I agree. She is still a kid really who likes to stick people with the pointy end.

[–] Lancecam88 (82) 6 years ago

I always saw it as she viewed the title as demeaning and people like Sansa the only image as one. When Gendry realised who she was he exclaims "so your a highborn! A Lady! And she responds Yes...no....well my sister is one and so is my mother. She does not reject her noble origins and class, she rejects her Ladyship. She even rejects the common address of "my lady" which is the how every woman is referred to as. When she had the conversation about her future with Ned and how she would rule her husbands castle as the Lady and she asks if she can be a lord. It is not a class issue, it. She viewed it a somehow being lesser or demeaning and only associated with knitting and pretty gowns. She embraced her nobility but rejects noble femininity.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Yeah, put that way it seems to really make her seem confused. I'm sure the writers are going for something with that but they aren't doing a good job of making it clear.

[–] Lancecam88 (82) 6 years ago

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[–] Alex (1508) 6 years ago

She lied to Gendry to let him off easy. It wasn't about the Lady thing at all. Trust me.

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 6 years ago

It’s a better line than “I am a trained assassin on a suicide mission”

What’s weird was Gendry asking her to marry him in the first place.

He saw her as an adult for the first time, had sex with her and proposed marriage in the span of two days.