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After rewatching Beyond the Wall...

posted 6 years ago by [deleted]
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...do those who hate The Long Night KNOW that the Night King's forces can be destroyed by killing him with Valyrian steel or dragonglass?

I knew from dialogue the "revived dead man" spoke that the Night King was the key to defeating the Army of the Dead, and the scene where they killed the White Walker who had those wights he turned with him crumble to pieces, aside from the wight that he didn't turn that they captured, so wasn't it obvious what was going to happen in The Long Night to those who hated it?

The problem with TLN as I see it, was that there were too many questionable choices made by the characters and the action was both hard to see and long and drawn out, with repeated "peril" faced by many characters and even the strange "stealth" scenes like Arya in the library avoiding wights. The execution of the Battle of Winterfell was poor, but the outcome was never in doubt. What I want to know is, are people complaining about how quickly Arya beat the NK or even how she did it? It was going to happen, as it was established in S7.

[–] EloraWood (158) 6 years ago

I agree with you. Except for I really didn’t mind how they did the battle - I prefer it being flawed and with some stupid decisions (but which where pretty in character for the ones who made them and the situation).It’s more realistic that way. I used to have a lot of conversations with my great-grandpa who was in two wars and my uncle who was in a couple and from what they said, in all the training, planning etc there are always mistakes, things that could have been better...unless you complete a mission and nobody gets hurt... there is no perfect execution. It’s not a video game but a terrifying war with real people and real emotions. So yes, I’d rather have them portray it that way.

I think people complained a lot about that it all ended “so fast”. But what they forget is: 1) this war against the dead has been going on for many years for the wildlings, then for 4-6 years for the crows and then for a bit south of the wall.
2) once south of the wall the deads army grew very rapidly because unlike the wildlings, who fought this for years, had traditions for hundreds of years to ensure reduced threats (like burning the dead) the northerners just got steam rolled, adding to the army.
3) the dead don’t need sleep or food and don’t fear death, don’t want to protect their fellow fighters etc - they just plow through everything without rest
4) the walkers and NK could just keep raising the new dead until nobody is left
So how this show down fight could have been drawn out? I have no idea.
There where just two endings: everyone alive dies or the whole of thems life force depends on the existence of the NK (which was long established).