After all, the tagline for the series was mostly "ALL MEN MUST DIE", so I'm guessing that JRRM must be a Feminist?
Not a troll post, just wondering: why the emphasis on Valar Morghulis?
As you probably have noticed before ;-) the english word "men" does not only mean "males" but "people" as well. When you google a bit, you’ll find the assertion that many Valyrian words are gender neutral as well. I don’t know if that’s true, but since Jaqen H'ghar at one point says "Valar dohaeris" to point out that Arya has to serve, it’s safe to assume that Valar refers to "people".
So, when Daenerys says: "All men must die. But we are not men." it’s her feministic interpretation. Of course she knows that the phrase refers to both men and women, but at that moment, the deliberate misinterpretation suits her well to make a point.
Danaerys can be a real idiot at times.
shareThanks.
Although Missandei clearly think Daenerys is making a feminist statement there, is it not equally possible that Daenerys is using the royal "we" to refer to herself, and "not men" to refer to her dragon-blood?
shareDaenerys should spare Cersei. After all, she's a woman.
And Melisandre definitely deserves a special pardon. In fact, get rid of the troll and the eunuch, and the old Greyscale guy, and make The Red Woman the new Hand.
Daenerys should spare Cersei. After all, she's a woman.
But like you noted "we are not men". Maybe she doesn't need to kill women. They're special.
shareWell, she did kill women before. I don’t see any hint that she changed her mind in that regard.
And she was talking with Missandei about DYING at the moment when she said "we are not men", not about KILLING. It may have been a bold statement like to emphasize that she thinks she will live through all the wars ahead; it may have been an assurance that she’s going to protect Missandei as best as she can.
To interpret that sentence in that situation as "I’m not going to kill women anymore" is… VERY far-fetched.
LOL it was a statement on mortality. Death is the equalizer, whether you're a king or a lowborn, you gonna die just the same.
shareSJW and #MeToo are the reason Cersei is the Final Boss instead of the Night King. Without the trend for strong empowered women to dominate films, she would have been just an appetizer. But we had to see that the Night King was just a weak male, and only a warmup for the Queen of Mean.
shareBS - not only is Cersei the furthest thing from a positive role model, she's likely the most hated character on TV.
Whereas Jon Snow is all earnest and good, the most righteous and virtuous character you could ask for.
Goodness and virtue doesn't matter now. Just empowerment. And Jon is played as a hapless boob compared to Daenerys.
shareGotta wonder though, if the two roles were reversed - there was an evil king and the Jon Snow character was female - would you be as pressed because they were coding it that men are evil and women are righteous liberators?
shareAll men must die...because death is inevitable and is a release from suffering.
All men must die...including women, as all humans must die.
Melisandre must die also...she must finally meet the fate of death as a human.
I guess though there is a double meaning that suggests male/female conflict. Men are maybe a threat to the survival and safety of women but also men are sometimes forced to sacrifice themselves for women.