Rickon Stark


I am watching the first season again and it seems that Rickon had more supernatural senses than Bran did. He had the same dreams as Bran but seemed to have them sooner.

When Robb and Theon go off to war, Bran tells Rickon that they will see all of their family (mom, dad & Robb) again soon. Rickon says that they won't.

At the end of season three when Rickon gets sent to the Umbers with Osha, he says he won't ever see him (Bran) again.


Eerie...……...

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Yeah, it's weird that they never decided to explore this further. I wonder if the books do.

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No, in the books Rickon went away and hasn't been seen again.

What was made clear in the books was that almost all of the Stark children had some psychic/warging ability, none at Bran's level, but Jon and Arya saw through the eyes of their pet dire wolves in dreams, and I think there was more. I don't remember if Robb did anything interesting, but I'm pretty sure Sansa was the only one who never had any hints of ability. But then, her dire wolf died early in the first book, and they seemed to bring out the warging sense.

Edit: heh heh the spell check wrote "dire WORF"!

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I've read the first book years ago so I either don't remember or these things happen later on in another book, but thanks for the reply.

I guess there's only so much you can fit into the show. I think the result is pretty good, had they shown the same gifts or warging through Rickon, Arya and Jon it probably would have taken away from the impact of Bran's ability to the viewer. I guess I'm glad that Jon and Arya can't.

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There's mention in the books of Robb using Grey Wind to scout.

I think there's subtle evidence in the show of Jon and Robb being wargs, but you really have to view between the lines, and it comes from the wolves, not Jon or Robb. Arya sees Grey Wind going ballistic right before the Freys come out and kill him, which implies he knew what had just happened to Robb. And during Jon's resurrection scene, Ghost lifts his head and looks up at the table (bed?) right before Jon opens his eyes. It could just be a sixth sense that many animals have, but I think it points to at least some warging abilities.

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Thank you, I had forgotten those details. It's pretty clear that the Stark line has some inborn abilities, but Bran is the only one to understand or develop the innate talent for warging Who knows what the others could have done, if they'd understood what was going on. Or hadn't gotten their dire wolf killed, in Sansa's case, she's the only one who never showed a hint.

And it's totally not clear if the warging was more due to the Starks themselves, or the dire wolves. Yes, the littler of dire wolves was clearly a Mystic Portent, but the Starks are of the blood of the First Men.


Edit: Oh yeah, one other detail which I'd almost forgotten... Rickon's dire wolf was horribly behaved, it'd run around Winterfell killing chickens and eating the furniture or whatever. Because that's the truth of it, Mystic Portent or not, if you bond a wild animal to a little kid, he's not going to be able to establish an alpha relationship with it and get it to do what he wants.

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Piggybacking on this a little...right from the get-go, Jon is able to communicate with Ghost using simple commands. When he takes his vows to join the Watch, and Ghost comes up to him with the severed hand, Jon says something along the lines of "To me, Ghost," and Ghost promptly presents him with the hand.

And in Season 4, when they are reunited at Craster's, they've been apart for longer than they've been together. Yet when Jon says, "Come here!" Ghost immediately comes over. That could just have been a testimony to how close they became while they were together. But I don't think any human would ever be able to control or communicate with a wild animal in that way, no matter how long the two of them had been together, without some sort of special connection.

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It's been noted in both the books and TV show that Jon's relationship with Ghost strikes other people as creepy and unnatural. Same for Robb, if I remember correctly.

And yeah, I've known people who kept wild animals, and while I believe the animals loved their humans, they never followed commands. Regular dogs actually have the capacity to understand a lot of human language, both words and body language. That's been bred into them over thousands of years, and wild wolves just don't have that capacity. Dire wolves even less so, I should think.

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