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Has anyone seen or read how GRRM feels about his story ending while he has two books to go?


I'm sure the question must have been posed during interviews or in articles, but I haven't seen and I'm curious.

It's pretty sad. I mean he created this wonderful story that has captivated the world, but he's not getting to be the author of the final act!! What's it going to be like in (year ___) when the world knows the whole story, and he comes out with the... second-to-last book?? Talk about anticlimax!

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Well he is the main consultant for the show...supposedly all story lines have gone through him ,so the end we are watching is at the very least approved by the fat man himself. A better question is whether or not Martin is currently trolling HBO and us the viewers. Will his ending match up with the televised finale...knowing how ornery he can be,maybe...but probably not.

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Right, I know that he definitely gave the story details through the end to David and David. I'm still just wondering if he's ever expressed in an interview how he *feels* about the show telling the final act of his story before he can.

It must be in an interview or article somewhere.

As for him trolling HBO, that's an interesting theory, but I doubt it. I would think he wouldn't compromise the integrity of his story by giving HBO a crappy, fake conclusion.

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I believe he has been overall pleased with the production values...casting selections,special effects etc. He has been somewhat displeased with character omissions...ladystoneheart comes to mind.
Have you tried googling his reactions towards the show?

As far as the troll theory goes...not mine but thanks! No martin is known for trolling his audience and media alike. When news broke of his deal with HBO fans of his work began speculating immediately as to how he would troll an audience of potentially billions. Also he's been kind of prickly lately when asked about progress on WOW,that coupled with no excerpts being released as many speculated would be has many thinking he has written himself in a corner. When Martin does this...often the story has to change...anyway...time will tell.

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This!

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There's no way he can wrap up the mess he made in only two more books! How can he go from having the characters wander around randomly to wrapping up the war of Five kings, settling who's queen of all Westeros, and having the living fight the dead in just two books?

No, he's letting other writers finish the story for him, and give it the ruthless editing it's needed for so long.

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Any story can be finished in one book. For your argument to hold water one would have to establish a fixed number of pages for books in general...asoiaf could be told in one volume...it would have to be a ten thousand page juggernaut...but there is no reason to assume it couldn't be done. Now...can it be accomplished by said geriatric,cholesterol blob? Hopefully, as Martin has made it clear that in no terms will asoiaf be finished by ANYONE other than himself. Trust me when I tell you this...if anyone at his publishing house could have finagled a completed work prior to televised renditions,they would have moved(or paid)heaven and earth to do so. HBO would certainly have preferred a finished work as they are now held captive by a story line that could quite possibly be the biggest literary troll job ever perpetrated. I believe he will in fact finish a dramatically different tale than HBO is currently airing...and I'll fucking love it!!!

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Have you read the books?

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I imagine that he feels bad all the way to the bank.

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Yup...four times and will probably read again this winter

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Though the last book definitely won't come out until after the series ends, it's possible that the Winds of Winter will be out before the final season. He did say that it may be out in 2017. We're more than halfway through the year though, already August now, and still no announcement of a release date, so I'm becoming increasingly pessimistic about that. But it... MIGHT... still happen... Maybe...

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I only read the books because of the show. The books are actually very different from the show. There are things that have happened on the show that just will never happen in the books and still other things in the books that the show totally left out. For example, in the last episode it was suggested the Brienne's oath of Catelyn Stark was fulfilled, but in the books Catelyn Stark is back from the dead and she considers Brienne a traitor. When the next book comes out there are story lines unique to the books that GRRM must resolve and as a result the ending will not be the same.

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