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Anyone else a bit thrown by the cave drawings scene?

posted 7 years ago by Capybara29 (10)
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Meaning... I'm a bit confused about the Children of the Forest and the First Men ostensibly having joined forces against the White Walkers. Weren't we previously told that the Children *created* the Walkers, as a defense *against* Men, and that they then just lost control of them? (The show did tell us that SUPER fast and without much fanfare, so, I dunno, but they did tell us that last season.) I thought the First Men wiped out the Children?

Maybe there's more to the story to come. (And of course, very LITERALLY, there is more to the story to come, from GRRM.)

[–] Benjobuff (406) 7 years ago

I think this kind of thing you will have to read the books. It's like watching lord of the rings and asking why are there two different kinds of elves

[–] sematerry (4) 7 years ago

I was thinking the same thing, maybe Jon drew them himself so Dany would believe him? lol

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

That had me confused as well! I have to believe jons interpretation was just that...an assumption based on what he saw in the drawings because yes...the children of the forest supposedly created the white walkers.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Books have yet to cover the creation of the white walkers...have just skimmed the surface of the children of the forest

[–] Kawada_Kira (7282) 7 years ago

I think they created the Walkers to use against humans, but the Walkers got out of control and proved even more dangerous and destructive than the humans, so the Children had to join with the humans to put them back down.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 7 years ago

That is exactly correct. This was all covered when the Children of the Forest explained the origin of the Walkers to Bran.

[–] Otter (24464) 7 years ago

Remember the White Walkers have been around for thousands of years. That's a very long time, like if the WW existed in our world they'd have been around when the Great Pyramids were built, if not since the last Ice Age.

With that amount of time to work with, there's plenty of room for both conflict between humans and the Children, and for alliances to have come and gone. So yes, if there's a carving commemorating an alliance, that doesn't mean things were always copacetic.

[–] winslow (1318) 7 years ago

The show seems to be mixing prophecy and history. The cave drawings depicted the Battle for the Dawn, when the Night's Watch was formed. There is a story about a small group of 12 men, a horse and a dog, who went north to find the Children, but only 1 made it to them. Then they formed an alliance and beat the Walkers, sending them into retreat. The story is also called "the last hero", and we may be seeing it reenacted on the show. Aside form the cave drawings, the book Gillie is reading in one of the preseason trailers is open to the page of the story about the last hero. Also the shot of them north of the wall had what looked like 12 men in a circle. There is a horse and the dog could either be The Hound or Ghost. The prophecy says something like this would happen again to win the present war.

Another interesting bit is the spiral thingy was one of the first things they showed in the cave, and is also the same pattern the body parts were arranged in during the pilot episode. The showrunners said at the time that they chose that pattern to show the Walkers are intelligent, but it could be a marker to show it's time to raise an army and go to war.