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the prophecy about Cersei


I guess this is more for those who have read the books, or don't mind spoilers.

The part about the little brother killing her being left out. Ugh, that irks me so much. Mainly because it makes me wonder why, and where they'll go with it.

Maybe it means they plan to kill Cersei in a different way? But I feel like that would be such a huge deviation. I wonder if maybe they did film the rest of the scene, then cut that part out, so they could use it as a flashback later (maybe right before it actually occurs) to have a more dramatic effect.

Thoughts?

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I was intrigued by the prophecy, too--I need to watch that scene again. The change to it does seem to imply that the show is going to take a different path, or at least have some misdirection. If, hypothetically, GRRM is helping guide the last few seasons, based on his notes, then he may have provided info on his plans for Cersei. Tyron has certainly become a huge fan favorite, so they may be planning to cast him in a certain light, although they've kept with him killing Tywin, Shae, and soem other things.

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The prophecy actually said that "the valonquar" would kill her, apparently that's an old Valerian word meaning "little sibling". She thinks it refers to Tyrion, and it may, but since most of the people in the world have older siblings or belong to some brotherhood or sisterhood, it could refer to almost anyone.

I am looking forward to her just demise.

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In the books, Cersei is the twin born first. Jaime is also her little brother.

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This may be important. Jaime was listening to Cersei making war plans, talking about dynasty that will last thousand years (just for two of them), and calling Tommen a traitor, and he must've been realizing that she's slipping into madness. Maybe he'll have to add "queenslayer" to the list of his nicknames if he wants to save what's left of their kingdom.

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I think you're right. Jaime might be the one to fulfill the prophecy. In the map room, she asks him if he's afraid of her and he says "Should I be?" I think he's thinking about all those people she killed in the Sept and environs. It's almost like she became the mad king with that move. The exact reason Jaime assassinated him. Maybe he'll have to kill her to prevent a further tragedy. And doesn't he hold her responsible for their "baby boy's" death? Weird, that he used that expression "baby boy"( totally a non sequitur but it sounded strange).

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I think Jaime marked her as going insane the minute he arrived back in King's Landing to find the Great Sept and everyone in it blown up with wildfire (incidentally the very sort of thing he had slain Aerys to prevent) and Cersei being crowned queen. The way he was watching her during her coronation seemed like a foreshadowing. Right now she's just continuing a downhill slide that has already begun. I too think that he might kill her in the end.

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Oops, now my comment looks like almost a repeat of Drmccormack's comment just above. In fairness, they posted their comment while I was typing mine.

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Everything Cersei loves and cherishes will be destroyed before her own death, and most of it already has.

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