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Don't understand Orlov compromising Salt's cover


Could someone explain to me why Orlov intentionally got captured just to blow Salt's cover if he never had a change of heart and wasn't trying to stop the attacks? If it was just to get the movie rolling, it could have made more sense to have an actual defector (random character) reveal this info that didn't escape moments later.

Maybe I missed something, but these weren't Manchurian candidates that needed to be triggered and he greatly hindered her ability to carry out the mission he planted her so carefully to execute.

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Orlov was planning to end Salt's life?? I know Schreiber wanted her blamed, but I thought Orlov did it to force her to run and bring her back to the group.

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Consider that killing the Russian president wasn't really important - not if Winter's role succeeded. For that, they needed to get him in the 'safe room' with the president. So he couldn't just kill the president, though he probably could do that. By naming her as an assassin they made the Secret Service afraid for the president's life, then when the other sleeper killed himself, that got Winter in a locked-down place with the president. He was then able to kill the other people present and start a nuclear launch, without fear of anyone getting in to stop him. This would have been the most guaranteed way to defeat the US, far more reliable even than killing the Russian president. He should have been able to do it easily, except that he didn't know that Salt was no longer loyal to Orlov and underestimated her ability.

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My guess is that Orlov was testing her. He suspected that she'd gone soft after getting married, so he wanted to see if she could (1) fight her way out of CIA captivity, and (2) fight through secret service to kill the Russian leader. Only after passing those tests (and another, in which she is forced to watch her husband die) does Orlov trust her with the real mission to the White House.

The plan was probably for Schreiber's character to help her and Orlov (as far as he could without blowing his cover) and then to execute her as soon as she'd done the job, tying up all the loose ends.

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It was nonsense. It forced her to improvise a ridiculously dangerous escape and chase, in which it was highly probable she'd be captured or killed, and thus unable to assassinate the Russian president.

That's the huge flaw in the plot: one the one hand we're supposed to believe that Orlov has planned this Day X 30 years ago and set it in motion; what we see though is a series of improvisations and a scheme that depends on one person, Salt, alone, taking on and beating dozens of highly trained secret service and FBI agents, and winning each and every encounter. Jumping from bridges onto moving vehicles. Crashing the police car and walking away from it without a scratch.
The same with Orlov: his escape from CIA custody was pretty damn unlikely. One old man killing three agents in the elevator then walking out the door.

We know at the end that Salt was supposed to be a patsy to cover Winter. But Salt should have wondered why the hell she had been exposed, endangering her and her mission. She knew she was supposed to be identified, and let herself be captured and made another absurd escape from the police). She could have done that anyway, without Orlov outing her at all.

And an unrelated issue: at the end she is going to kill all the other sleeper agents. Not caring that like her, they had no choice and maybe might desperately want to escape from their "duty". Orlov deserved his death, the others were cannon fodder.

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PLOT: why dint the cops go after Orlov in the same heavy ham-fisted way they went for Salt? ... it was all a bit daft (but entertaining all the same )

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It was nonsense. It forced her to improvise a ridiculously dangerous escape and chase, in which it was highly probable she'd be captured or killed, and thus unable to assassinate the Russian president.



How is that a flaw in the plot? That was exactly what they wanted. Orlov didn't want that but Liev's character did. He felt that Salt had went soft and started to have feeling for America and wanted to test her. If she were to die or to be captured it would've been ok in his book; she was certainly the best but ultimately expendable since there are other capable agents, including himself, that could carry out the task just as well as she could.

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We need to suspend our disbelief, these are movies (stories) not history.

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True but uninteresting. Assuming the filmmakers gave some thought to creating a coherent story and weren't just pulling random events out of a hat, it's legitimate to ask questions about characters' motives - just as (hopefully) the writer and director were doing.

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We know at the end that Salt was supposed to be a patsy to cover Winter. But Salt should have wondered why the hell she had been exposed, endangering her and her mission. She knew she was supposed to be identified, and let herself be captured and made another absurd escape from the police). She could have done that anyway, without Orlov outing her at all.


She clearly did wonder why she had been exposed, given the fact that she immediatly took action by taking the spider with her on her escape.

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From what I took from the film, the two most talented agents were Salt and Winter. Winter may have been better all around but it was Salt who had whatever passed for love on Orlov's part. I think Winter was jealous of her and attracted to her as well.

But aside from that, getting to their goal was extremely hard. They needed a fall guy to take the heat off the real assassin. Winter worked hard on Orlov to turn him just a bit against his "daughter". Of course, Salt marrying her true love helped Winter's case against her. That was how Salt was turned into the patsy.

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he blew the cover since it was well known and suspected since Oswald LOL

Salt took the heat off Winter, and also Winter knew they lost her in Korea, (which was insane, since a call from KGB to North Korea and Salt would be out with slight touch-up)....Winter was CIA and not secret service, o not close to the president....

The new POTUS lost his parents and sister in a plane crash, so plan B is activated.

Meaning, both Salt and Winter were patsies.



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