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The pilot episode feels so cheesy and corny


Watched it before yesterday and while I still liked it, I couldn't help but feel awkward with its cheesiness of Call of Duty, the acting, technology and Morgan being so cartoony.

Chuck (the show) did not age well.

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The pilot wasn't the best, but the show does get a whole lot better. If you stick with it until episode 3, you will probably be hooked, I know I was.

The acting improves a lot too.

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I think it is the greatest television show of all time and I do not watch much television !

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I watched the entire Chuck series when it was still airing but now, it doesn't feel like it aged well, tbh.

The tech used feels dated and isn't as cool as it used to be.

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That's a childish argument. No, I'm not calling you names, it really is something a child would whine about--waa waa, your special effects weren't good enough to make me happy, waa waa, I'm gonna go watch Transformers now.




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I thought the same thing when it first aired. But I gave it a few episodes and it quickly became one of my favorites.

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For a pilot, I thought it was good. It didn't suffer anything most pilots do. The actors don't really have the roles down yet; it's generally exposition-heavy.

Then again, some of the best shows of all time didn't have good pilot episodes.

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It didn't suffer anything most pilots do.


The actors don't really have the roles down yet; it's generally exposition-heavy.


Heh, step back and squint while you read the above two assertions. Your statements are contradicting one another.



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I think Murph has it about right. All pilots suffer from several things, like the heavy exposition, actors and writers finding the characters voices and the show runners feeling out how it all fits together and what the show looks like. It is interesting to watch that process.

I really liked the pilot but you can watch the first season and see how they figured out the overall look and feel of the show in episode 3 and the writers and Yvonne finally came together and "got" the Sarah character about episode 6 or 7. Season 2 was all of them at the top of their game.

Later seasons were more uneven as the show suffered through budget and production cuts, and perpetual bubble status had them constantly writing for a finale only to have to extend the season.

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The one thing that can ruin a show is uncertainty of its continuity. But writers somehow "pulled off" despite this fatal flaw. (Still a fair share of plotholes)

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plotholes

Seriously? I must be asleep, as I haven't found many plot holes at all. Can you elaborate please?

editing to add: okay, I've finished season 4 and will admit I met a couple of plot holes.



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there are plenty of plot holes.. and leaps of logic. Even in season 2 which is by far the single STRONGEST season of the show's run. But the question is do those plot holes deter from the overall enjoyment of the show? Even at its worst I say no, because the characters are so damn likable and you want to see where the show is going with them you overlook the inconsistencies. Season 5 is especially bad with a few of their more major ones, mostly from trying to tie it all together that didn't quite fit. Which is where most of the worst issues I have of the show lie. Trying to tie things in together that just don't quite fit.

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Like what?



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Truthfully, I was less than impressed with the eps until Chuck vs. the Alma Mater. But that episode really hit on something when Chuck flashed on himself. I think that's when the series started to take off.

And it wouldn't surprise me the show would have done even better had they not cut it at 13 eps following the writers' strike. And Season 2 was definitely their best, although you can make an argument for season 3B (starting with vs. the Other Guy) and 4A (through vs. the Seduction Impossible)

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I rather enjoy the pilot for Chuck.

Sarah Lancaster wasn't made up like Elvira yet.

Jeff, while goofy was still reasonably normal.

Chuck had a bit more backbone when he walked away from Sarah and Casey saying they needed him and not the other way around.

Things I didn't like:

The younger actress playing Beckman.

The girls at the party asking Chuck questions and looking right into the camera (never cared for that technique).

When Sarah throws her knives and subdues the NSA agents (do they not know how to pull knives out of walls?).

Casey ready to kill a CIA agent. They may be in different agencies, but they're both trying to protect the USA. Seems strange that he would be so willing to kill her.

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The younger actress playing Beckman.


Well, when the pilot aired, no one knew who that woman was. In retrospect, it wasn't General Beckman.

Odd criticism, though. Did you think she was too young even to play a project lead?



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Well, when the pilot aired, no one knew who that woman was. In retrospect, it wasn't General Beckman.

Odd criticism, though. Did you think she was too young even to play a project lead?


Well who else could it have been? She's standing there working with Director Graham and we know Beckman and Graham worked together for several episodes. She's also dressed in an outfit similar to Beckman's.

And I'm not criticizing the actress, I just really like the actress who played Beckman. She commanded respect and gave orders and there was no screwing with her. Could this pilot actress have pulled all that off? Maybe...but we'll never know.

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"Star Trek" had a few cheezy moments - a couple of the early episodes were painful (Spock: "Ah, one of your Earth emotions...")!! I think it was partly because the directors didn't have a clue at first about the characters' personalities, especially when it came to Spock...This was when Leonard Nimoy began to assert himself and create Spock, becoming his champion, caretaker & defense attorney...

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