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Morgan is ruining this show for me (need advice)

posted 9 years ago by meri27
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I'm watching Chuck for the first time and I just finished the first episode of season 5... I seriously doubt I can suffer through 12 more episodes.

It's so frustrating because they almost had the perfect setup for the last season: Chuck, Sarah and Casey work for themselves and Chuck has to prove himself without the intersect, but they just had to ruin it by making Morgan an intersect and a permanent member of the team.

Now I understand why this show lost its popularity. It started out as a fun semi-serious spy fic, but around the time they made Morgan do legit spy work (mid-season 3 I believe) the series turned into a joke. Part of the appeal of the first seasons (for me at least) was that an unwilling, normal, but capable guy got into impossible situations. The whole Chuck-Sarah-Casey dynamic was fantastic.

This sadly went out of the window with the intersect 2.0 and I guess the showrunners believed the series needed a new "incompetent comedic spy" in the team as a replacement of the now more competent Chuck and they choose Morgan. Huge mistake. Morgan has no reason to be on missions, unlike Chuck he is worthless and a hindrance, yet I had to endure his idiocy since mid-season 3. Ugh. And in season 5 there is even more of his idiocy. Ugh x2.

He should have stayed on the sidelines as the loyal best friend like in the first two seasons. You know, when the show was great and popular?

Honestly if there is ever going to be a sixth season and they want it to be successful, the show has to focus on its 3 worthwhile characters (Chuck, Sarah and Casey), bring in 2 or 3 new faces, but most importantly get rid of Morgan. The idiot is hugely responsible for the decline of Chuck.

So based on what I wrote, should I bother watching the rest of the season or should I just skip to the final episode and be done with it?

[–] MurphAndTheMagicTones 9 years ago

Morgan gets the Intersect taken out by episode 4. However, it was a defective Intersect given to them by Clyde Decker. This is important because 1) it started causing memory loss in Morgan he never recovered (such as Casey convincing him The Phantom Menace was a classic), and 2) Sarah would get the Intersect when the team was about to be captured, resulting in the final few episodes.

Skipping to the final won't help since a lot of what happens there is built up from the final five episodes. Watching just the final 2 eps will make no sense.

As for Morgan, they did not know when they taped the season 4 finale whether they would have a fifth season, so like every other season (except 1), the season finale was built like both a final episode and a cliffhanger to cover both possibilities.

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"Go with your heart, buddy. Our brains only screw things up."---Chuck

[–] meri27 9 years ago

Thanks for the reply!

[–] meri27 9 years ago

So I decided to watch the whole thing and... it was pretty great! I'm very happy this show recovered after the horrible s4 and ended on such a high note! I even teared up a couple of times during the finale.

[–] MurphAndTheMagicTones 9 years ago

Personally, I thought the Agent X/Norseman plotline was worse than Sarah losing her memories, but they had the same thing in common: drawing the plot around the actor/actress they could get. I thought Shaw would have been good as the final baddie because they really straightened out his story once he turned bad.

A lot of people hate the finale, but I think that cleaned up what happened in episodes 10 and 11 of season 5.

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"Go with your heart, buddy. Our brains only screw things up."---Chuck

[–] meri27 9 years ago

I disliked pretty much the entirety of s4, but I had no problems with Sarah's memory loss. Chuck and the team saved the day/each other countless times so having them deal with something they cannot save or bring back was a clever idea imho. I had much more problems with Quinn who was an all around terrible villain, I agree that Shaw or even Decker would have been much better as the big bad.

I think the finale is amazing! It was a great nostalgia trip even for someone like me and it had so many great moments like Casey's goodbye to Chuck and Sarah or Jeffster's final performance. I mean in which other show do they thwart the big bad's diabolical plan by singing Take On Me in an opera house? How awesome is that.

Regarding Sarah's memory loss, throughout the finale she starts remembering random things from her time with Chuck (the porn virus, the beach). What I got from these hints is that she is gradually going to remember everything. Or we can go with the Chuck's Magic Kiss route and she instantly regains her memories after the kiss. OR let's say neither of these happen, I still got the impression that Sarah already started falling for Chuck once again. This is how you do an unique and memorable ending.

[–] gile_car 9 years ago

Wow...I agree with everything you said in that last paragraph. In that several situations of last ep,she remembered a few thing from first seasons..so yea,that's the indicator of her gradual memory gain..ohh and I loved the scene where Casey interrupts Charah moment when he says ''find that porn virus'' :D thought I would never hear those words from him :D
And I love your theory that Sarah already started falling for Chuck..her face expression,when she says ''Chuck..kiss me'' with little tears in her eyes,tells you (me,everybody) that... God, I'll miss this show xD

''Technically... I still have one foot in the car''

[–] martavisgriffin 9 years ago

Chuck is my favorite show of all time, but yea, making Morgan an intersect was a mistake. What made the show great was how Chuck and the intersect worked to build these characters and relationships around him. I thought what they should have done was stripped him back to the original intersect and continued with different missions relying on Sarah and Casey for the fighting and Chuck for his intersect abilities. I know they didn't realize when the show would end so they had to push things at times. Should have continued with the basics rather than make it so involved. Amazing show nonetheless.

[–] sensdeath 9 years ago

It was kind of stupid seeing immature Morgan handling the Intersect (more likely NOT handling) but other than that, I like Morgan. His jokes are stupid and he can be sometimes annoying, but I just feel he's that last something which this show needs. I like how he always pisses off Casey.