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Where did the Governor go?


It was the whole reason for the Death scene for Chucks dad which was really well done but then nothing about needing the governor again. Shaw should have been going insane in his cell without one which he didn't have and don't get me started on how they let him keep the intersect, especially when a few months later they came up with a device to dampen it. He should have been in a medical coma for everyones sake. Decker wouldn't have been that connected.

I feel sorry for Brandon Routh, Superman Returns really killed his career so he had to take whatever they gave him.

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Superman returns might have killed his career - but watching him on this he didnt come over as a very good actor. Very mono-toned in his delivery, and he didnt have a commmanding presence either. Sorry IMHO




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I understand there are many opinions about him, i rather like his work when done correctly, though he definitely needs more work to fine tune his acting.

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I hope he does get more opportunities - he's not dire at his craft and I think he can become pretty good. Plus he seems like a genuine person.




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The thing is in season 5 it seems that part of the NEED for a Governor is dependant upon how much you use the Intersect. It took Chuck almost a year before he really had symptoms. But Morgan and Sarah were both shown to heavily use the Intersect so issues came up much sooner. Shaw may not have needed to use the Intersect all that often.

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but his upload of the intersect was from the ring side, not the CIA, did they even KNOW he had it?

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The 2.0 Intersect (end of season 2) was the CIA's if I'm correct. That was the one that was altered after Stephen Bartowski handed it to Bryce. In the season 4 premiere, you saw Chuck with 3 Governor watches and he put one on as Sarah prepared for spy work sans Chuck. Eventually, Ellie figured out how to adjust the Intersect to be less harmful to Chuck. But it was configured for Chuck. Anyone else who used an Intersect had problems like Sarah and Morgan did. IIRC, Chuck never got the Intersect out after the finale.

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Personally, Chuck was special in the fact that when he had the first "pure" upload when he was a child, even his dad said he had a special mind. In one episode his dad actually tells him that he can flash when he wants to. In another episode, before we knew who his dad was, he tells Chuck that he put also put something in Chuck/intersect a long time ago, personally when first watched, made me wonder when, not how. And, yes staring with, before he put the watch on and was "down and out" supposedly because he was "gone/dying" yet after a moment or 3, he is up, he says something like "just had to reboot", and defeated Shaw who supposedly had a "better" intersect/upload than Chuck.

This also made me wonder, as when his dad again supposedly took out the intersect, yet his dad also watched/saw the "take out" but it did not take the intersect out of him, that makes me think that it was a method to trick Chucks brain into total relaxation in body and mind. There is a couple reasons think this. 1st is when that guy who has a name can not pronounce, who reversed enough to have a type of intersect in his glasses, not a full one just a type or else he would have at least fell over after upload or passed out and/or scrambled his mind as the way that fulcrum uploads if not outright killing him.

2nd, goes back to the original "pure" upload as a child, that was the 1st time, the 2nd time was the one Bryce sent, start of show, 3rd, he then had an reload/upgrade, again Bryce left "for a real spy", 4th, was the fulcrum test upload, 5th upload, was when fulcrum uploaded, they thought he was gone, like rest they did this to, so most others brains either scrambled or dead, again "special brain".

There were others that had some kind of reworked intersect, which is why could be completely taken out, and hearing them say something like "glad its gone and poor guy to have all that". Shaw, he was "nuts" anyway, (cant be just me who thought that), when finally removed, was not a "pure" intersect so removal done. The first ever try,was also not a "pure" one as had never been done, did not know would completely change personality and making the guy a power hungry nut. Chucks dad had reworked all that out making it "pure" (pure is the only way I can type as the personality changing was gone in that one Chuck uploaded as child and also made his dad realize his son was special, maybe part of why he disappeared, he did say he did to keep them safe, but I think Chuck has always had that original one, his dad saying he put something there long time ago, all the other uploads and "rebooting").

All those uploads after Chuck had already had the "pure" intersect from when was a child, yes did have some problems, but he was getting dreams that he knew Shaw was alive, special brain, starting with epi "Chuck versus the tooth" and the following ones when his dad comes back. Yes his dad was worried, as even though he knew his son was special, just did not know how special with all that had been uploaded, thus the governor/watch. That watch though, Morgan (the intersect story with him, ugg, just glad only few epis) his brain could not handle, watch would do little for him as did not have special brain and the upload was deliberately changed (though what it would have done to Chuck, would his special brain have handled, we will never know). Sarah, that one again was changed, though slightly different than the Morgan one, as Morgan used to love some stuff that after he did not, Sarah, she started to have some very unconscious memory. More to it as some thought ending was a "kick in the head", really ?, as there have been other shows that had horrid endings that really were a "kick", (how i met your mother, lost, seinfeld...though with 1st 2 shows i mentioned, himym, after couple epis, knew the ending and stopped watching, lost, good first few epis but I lost interest, the S one, really ?, some thought that was a good show ? Not).

Chuck the ending, reloaded with a good interest, yes one that some thought should have gone to Sarah, in a way agree as think Chuck still had that original in his head with the reload just bringing it out faster, and yes reload as glasses were a good type of reload. Watch/governor worn by Chuck, was just a bonus help to him, because he special, brain/mind, and as the show progressed, he was really coming into himself to really realize that. But some saying Sarah the feelings were gone and all that, well I think you could see that they were coming back. Yes, for her she was re learning feelings, as look how long it took her to see them herself, Corina saw them saying something like "I love to take something that Sarah wants even though she dont know it yet" and even Bryce saw it, asking Chuck what was he going to do about it, and telling Chuck you will do the right thing, you always do. Even nutty Shaw saw it, and last but not least, Casey saw and knew it too. (ok yes "about dam time" General Beckman knew). You could see that fight going on in her again, as she had unconscious memories and she even had her own words as you could see it as she watched herself talking about Chuck and all, then heading to that beach, asking from Chucks perspective all, she was relearning and rediscovering...reminded me of a couple who had been married for a few yrs before one was in a accident loosing all memory, and both of them rediscovering each other and relearning about love and that they could love one another again.

Yes, I really like this show, despite the ups and downs and campy unrealistically "uploads", I took the ending as a new beginning, our lives are always changing, we are not the same as we were even 1 year ago, and in 5 yrs, we will not be the same as today, and yup, true hard working real love never dies, just takes that hard work. Boy, typed enough, hope some of my thoughts made sense, agree or not, as was my thinking, and well, I do like to sometimes think outside the box, that and I like real tv shows (HATE REALITY CRAP) and movies of all kinds that let you think or laugh, cry, any and all emotions and use your imagination.

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i agree with you. he had waaaay more "uploads" than anyone else, and HANDLED it, and as we saw-- waaay better than anyone else did. he truly was, as his dad said to him, "you are special".


and yes, i said in another post, i thought Shaw was nuts to start with, and NEVER liked him. he didn't seem to be that good a spy either, and Chuck was always able to out think Shaw, which was a great thing! and was able to beat him with or "without" the Intersect.

i only found this show a few weeks ago, and i LOVE it. this and Burn Notice are my two favorite shows EVER.

i was not disappointed in the ending, and it showed them where they started she was able to get to the starting point and they were sitting in reversed positions shown in the first episode.

i rather liked the ending.

she was being won over again.

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Nice to see a new fan, well least your typed words, LOL, i discovered Chuck either 2013 or 14. There was one more thing that I forgot about with how special Chucks mind is. When his mom "neutralized" (could add a bit more but dont want to get to wordy, as this has at least 2 thoughts/meanings from past), as his mom knew what was going to happen to him soon, season 4 epi 9. Most if not all, other than Chuck, because his brain/mind was so special, he not just survived but was really able to work and learn very quick to be able to do more. May not be able to get exactly what i is thinking here but will try, though skipping over much and getting right pretty much right to Shaw again.

When all was taking place, and the fact the Beckman was really calling him Agent after no longer being able to flash. Chuck was "growing", changing too, in a good way, seeing himself as not just the intersect (though not rightly realizing that he still has an intersect, least that is my thinking, the one from child hood that made his dad realize very special, and special brain that has protected him), to the horrid Morgan "intersect", yes beyond to end of show, but now to Shaw.

Shaw got out and of course went straight to try and destroy everything dear to Chuck and of course, kill Chuck. (repeating self, going back to when you kinda figured out Shaw never really liked him, just a little thing, no coffee got for Chuck). Chuck was able to not just fight Shaw, despite him having the "latest, most superior intersect", and well if his sister Ellie had not knocked him out, think Chuck, would have had some kind of flash, though not like he had before, and would have kick some serious A s, and even if wanting to kill for what he does to Sarah, and would have been "justified", Chuck is still Chuck. Yes, Chuck would kill, but that would be his very last choice.

Despite some of the last season stemming from the 4th season ending and all that took place and Chuck not realizing (my thinking, but sis knocking out Shaw, did not have that very diff flash), still had a pure intersect, and them not being gov spies. That cant rem name, who took over and kick team Bartowski out, but they wanted Chuck dead after the run around "torture", Think they knew just how special Chuck really was, and that part of reason they wanted him dead ?

Have stared what I guess all are calling fan fic, not sure where story is going, though taking a bit of a break, till some middle of the night when wakes me and brain and right hand connect and i loose track of time...over the years my writing was, well personal. Never thought to publish, though the few older friends i dared to share with and a teacher thought should try and publish, despite the teacher knowing,(prob friends too, just did not mention) my editing is horrid, was not something wanted to do. Now, looking into, under a different name, as not looking for that 20 mins of fame that far to many are desperately clinging to (19.8 mins too long), though not sure about fan fic and legal rights to getting paid a bit, that and editor. I read a lot, you would think some editing skill would happen, and thankfully on comp, spell check, but as anyone can tell, this is not good editing.

The ending of series, was an ending and worked well with the show, and most could see where is was heading. So far my version of after events, has her have what I call feeling memory with some real memories that have not just came back but were there, but as we knew from the through out the show, she is/was very good at keeping feelings out.
She had what she was trying not to feel, she had what she saw and then heard from her "handler", she also had what she was trying hard not to feel when she was with Chuck by herself, the she also had her own words on disk and how she was feeling towards Chuck when she first meets him (while we see a bit of her face and reactions, tears, laughter as she is watching herself, you know she is re feeling those same things). My story covers all that with them traveling to see her mom and "sister" as Chuck wants her to re have that connection, to meeting up with the remaining "cats", with them re marring just over a year later. More there, and well you gotta have that "big bad adventure"...

Ok, still got wordy, done for now, will get back to watching more Chuck, season 4 think epi 3 or 4, here s to re watching...oh ya, Burn Notice, good show too. Have you checked out BBC s Merlin? and do/did you like Buffy tv series, Angel spin off, or Alias, going back to 2 shows that with 1 that came out before me was hatched (74) Six Million Dollar Man and its spin off Bionic Woman 3 seasons, and the 3 tv movies with one of them having Sandra Bullock (hope sp her name right) or 80s series Knight Rider, (many of my friends like the main actor, he ok, I wanted Kit, not just the car, but Kit), as can tell, like many real tv shows, some of the old ones are better than today, esp better than reality crap.

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i just thought Shaw was..."off". he sent him to get the "key" to the lock box, alone. he didn't want to back Chuck on the idea that he had when he got the Ring o-pperative to come to the BuyMore, AND he pulled guns on Sarah and Casey.

Shaw KNEW Sarah was in love with Chuck,
he SAID IT: "...we both fell in love with spies..."

the guy was OFF, and we saw this.

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but it wasn't the CIA that told him to upload it, it was Justin who was a part of the RING.

Chuck uploaded the 2.0 himself when Bryce was killed, and then destroyed it, and took out those operatives that were in the room when they had captured Casey and Sarah and had brought them into the Intersect room.

Shaw uploaded his right after Justin said, do it, there is no more time....
... when Chuck was closing in on them, and when his father was murdered, just before the RING wanted to take over the different branches of the government (CIA, NSA, etc).

i don't think the CIA knew or they may have wanted to remove it before Shaw was imprisoned. (i WOULD have removed it, if i had been in charge and KNEW Shaw had one)...

also: i think the other Intersect glasses had a virus, one that was known to (Quinn) and maybe Decker and Shaw, they were sent to Chuck for Chuck to upload, and Morgan did instead.



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