If Ron had overheard Hermione say "I'm always mad at him", should he...


...have broken up with her? She said it about him after he did something undeniably wrong, but instead of saying this about him in the specific situation, she stated it absolutely. It's a flippant position to assert that's potentially poisonous to the foundation of their relationship.

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HARRY
"You're not still mad at him are you?"

HERMIONE
"I'm always mad at him"

Because although this is meant as a kind of 'moody girls will be moody girls' comment intended for light audience humour, what she's implying is "I will always find him guilty without trial".

This is the exposed tip of a large iceberg that is the persecution of men in relationships - the default position that it's always a man's fault.

If I were Ron hearing this, I would immediately confront her and debate it out until she settled on our society's position of 'innocent until proven guilty'. Or, if she dogmatically refused to budge, I'd have broken up with her there on the spot. Why would I stay in a relationship where I agree to be put in prison - that is, lose all rights - whenever she feels spiteful? Honestly, men let women get away with this, demonstrated by the fact that I'm the first to protest this passing bit of dialogue.

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Honestly, to me it felt more like she was simply pointing out the intensity of her feelings for him.

People you don't care about may irk you a bit, but someone you really care about causes the emotions to come out stronger. You don't just get upset, you get full-on mad. you don't just get said, you get depressed, etc. etc.

The point was that she still felt so strongly about him.

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It's me....Bara...it's always bloody Bara!

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Accountability for one's words. That's my point. I agree, she may have been motivated by strong feelings, and that was probably the intended subtext too. However, she sets a frame by saying, otherwise it sets an all-too-familiar precedent for scapegoating problems onto the guy. Simply, if this is to be a long-term relationship, it needs to be handled like one.

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fair, but remember. As mature as they have to be in the situation they've both been thrust into and decided to partake in, they're still just kids, barely freshly 18. While I imagine Hermione isn't as cut off as Harry was due to his oppressive family and Dumbledore's lengthy attempts to keep him safe and 'locked up' from harm, I doubt she gets much interaction with the wizarding world outside of the odd owl over the Summer.

They've been friends for years, but Hermione only started sending out obvious signals around Goblet of Fire era, and Ron literally only twigged on midway through Half-Blood Prince. In the film, it's implied that they started their journey for the Horcruxes before Hogwart's school year started, so all things considered, Ron and Hermione have been "together" for a bit less than a year at this point.

Also, consider that Ron is upset and crying about being worried about his family - an entirely magic family that can at least have a chance to defend themselves and know what their up against. Meanwhile, Hermione's family are plain old muggles who probably couldn't begin to comprehend what their daughter or her world is involved in; and in order to prevent any harm coming to them she literally had to give them up. She erased permanently every memory of her they ever had. Whether they fail or succeed she can NEVER go home, she can NEVER have a family.

So, I mean...Come now, while I agree that later on they both have to mature and define and handle their relationship better, considering all of the things going on around them, I can't really blame Hermione feeling like that at that moment.

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It's me....Bara...it's always bloody Bara!

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True. They are kids, immature and in the heat of the moment. Still, if we do a simple gender reversal, would it go as unchallenged as it has here? My annoyance is less about how she treated him in the story, and more about the narrative being pushed to the audience - the narrative that says "girls, shuffle into a position where you can hold the power to judge your male unquestionably". Exactly what she was doing here. "I'm always angry at him". Always? Could that be more unfair? Again, if this goes unchallenged, it's saying that until she's called out on it, she forever has the power to find him guilty, should her bad moods so desire. Even writing these sentences, it's working me up. I shouldn't have to even argue this case it's such a no-brainer. No-one has the right to say their partner is guilty until proven innocent. This is casual witchhunting in the modern relationship. How can we kick up a fuss about the tragedies of Salem and yet casually let this same mechanism of judgment go as if it's cute! If I judge you guilty, no evidence or reason will save you. This is a frame that needs to change. It's madness, it shouldn't have to be challenged, but until it is, it must be called out for what it is!

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I have only watched the movies but I took the meaning of that line differently. Hermione is a logical person and logical people aren't always good at expressing romantic feelings. I believe she was more frustrated than anything with Ron because she believes he should be able to tell that she loves him. Frustration often manifests as anger so i believe she equated that as she was "always angry with him." We don't really see how they are together after they become romantically involved so it could be that she is no longer "always angry with him."

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