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Alice EVe and Ray Liotta

posted 12 years ago by shaggyhairedteen
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confused did he rape her during their first encounter at the motel ? also when they broke it off she kind of acted like maybe shes done this before ?

[–] SteveH2002 12 years ago

Not rape, just an arrangement - sex from her (for, I believe, a month's time) in exchange for a green card from him. I think by the time she broke it off we were meant to understand her callousness as a result of her change in character as a result of their arrangement. Her self loathing had caused her to change.

[–] AgPie 12 years ago

She was blackmailed into having sex with him. I think some states have extended the definition of 'rape' to include forced sex via extortion but I don't know if that's universal. She was certainly coerced into having sex she didn't want to have. You could argue that he used the force of 'fear' but that is something a lawyer would have to present in a courtroom. In any case he definitely broke the law and was a slimy POS.

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[–] lamont-hard 12 years ago

I agree he was slimy, but so was she, at least the way it is being told.

[–] AgPie 12 years ago

I don't think that I would consider her "slimy" actually. Her actions are definitely illegal but we can see that she struggles with the morality of what she is doing to herself. Her rejection of his feelings at the end was nothing more than harsh truth that she threw in his face because of her anger at the situation. It was a way to make him feel as bad as she'd been feeling. Less than he deserved IMO. The legal consequences they both faced were just I think.

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[–] Zombie55 12 years ago

Do you actually think that if he raped her, she would have remained normal and calm later on throughout the movie, and not either exact a revenge or get the police on him?

[–] Zombie55 12 years ago

Also, with this thread, it was actually THE first time I ever saw the word "rape" used to discuss the relationship between Alice Eve and Ray Liotta characters in the movie?

I have another question though -if Ray Liotta was actually a good guy in this movie, under what other circumstance (than sex), would he actually agree to help Alice Eve and maybe even help her really get a green card?

And what would that be and also - could that maybe be more legal and moral as well as to be ACTUALLY helpful with her matter?

[–] kingg-2 11 years ago

She was in no way eligible for a green card, so there was no legal way she could stay. She had already spent 7 months in the US, which is 4 months too long for a tourist stay.

[–] Strings101 11 years ago

"Rape"??... lol. Quite apart from her immigration status, her "arrangement" w/ the ICE Agent is a mere warm up for the casting couch that "Claire" will have to "audition" on--many, many times--in order to "make it big" in Hollywood. It's all about the chrome plating on the proverbial trailer hitch. ;^)

How can anyone who's lived in So-Cal plausibly doubt this? For every A/B list working actress, there's (conservatively) a hundred equally skilled and gorgeous wannabes. You see them hostessing at eateries and clubs all over WeHo, Santa Monica, B-Hills, etc... with their vanity, and their SAG cards, and their one 4-second clip in a Target commercial.

Obviously the real-life Alice Eve has already paid these "dues".

[–] L0GAN5 11 years ago

Rape is when someone is forced to have sex against their consent. She had a choice, and no matter how unpalatable her options were she wasn't forced to have sex. At worst she was blackmailed; at best she prostituted herself.