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Janes death was her own fault


Between her and Walt she was the only one who broke the law. Shooting heroin is a crime, accidentally knocking someone in their back is not. And besides if she were a nicer person I’m sure Walt would have helped her out despite it not being his moral or legal responsibility

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Just because you can do something does not mean you should.

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Exactly just because Walt could have saved her doesn’t mean he should have

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Allowing someone to die when you can help is immoral. Just because you don't have to help doesn't mean you shouldn't. You can cheat on your wife that doesn't mean you should. Walt should have helped.

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So you're admitting that Skyler was an immoral slut?

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The discussion is about Walt not Skylar. Walt should have helped Jane and he didn't. Therefore he is a trash human being.

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It’s my thread I can take the discussion in whatever direction I choose. Answer my point about Skyler and then ill address your point

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Nope. This is a public thread I will also discuss whatever I please. Don't like it too bad.

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When you’re on my thread you will obey my rules, the day you make a thread that I find interesting enough to post on then you can set the rules.

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Nope I can post whatever I want on whichever thread I please.

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This is my thread and those are the rules I have posted, now get back on topic or leave

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Nope. Try and do something about it.

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Why don’t you report yourself, I hear your into that sort of thing.

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That would be you. Since you never corrected the guy who did it that means you agree with him. Also let me help you out, it is you're not your.

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You’re the one who ratted not me so you don’t have any room to talk. And I’m typing from my iPad you moron cut me some slack.

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You never corrected the guy therefore by your logic you are just as guilty.

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But you’re the one who did it

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Remember using your logic here. Since you never corrected him you are just as guilty as me. You never corrected him therefore by your own logic you agree with him. Had you corrected him you would have a platform to stand on. You did not therefore you are guilty.

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You are the one who ratted I didn’t, case closed Pinkman

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Remember though you said nothing which means you agree with him. Your logic chief.

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I never ratted you admitted you did, there is only one of us who is a rat, whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant, that’s not as bad as actually ratting

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Nope according to you it's just as bad. Remember I'm using your logic here. Are you saying you were wrong? That's the only way you can get around what you said is by admitting you were wrong.

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Never said it was just as bad, I want another apology

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Yeah you did. You said since I never corrected the haters of the dark knight rises that I was just as guilty and that I agreed with them. Therefore same applies to you.

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It’s not the same as actually ratting, you ratted I didn’t. I don’t seem to remember accusing you of making those comments ???
You drew an illegitimate comparison and it highlights your poor debating skills

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Nope you said it's the same so I am holding you to the same standard. You claimed that since I never corrected the haters I was just as guilty and that I agreed with them.

So ratting is something you are guilty of. It is too bad all you had to do was correct the guy. Since you didn't you missed your chance.

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Show me where I accused you of making those posts?

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Check your sent messages.

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I did and nothing

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Check space ace as well. If you say you found nothing that will prove you are a liar. I just checked my inbox.

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Since it's probably buried under 50 some pages of messages maybe you could save me the trouble and just resend it?

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Nope. I've held your hand enough.

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In other words you can't back up your argument.

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Nope it just gets tiring having to hold your hand. However I did so go ahead and dispute that.

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If you really did have evidence then you would be throwing it in my face, not requiring that I hunt through pages and pages of messages to find it. According to you I have two options: A) Win by default because you won't show me the evidence or B) Consume my own time to hunt through pages and pages of posts so I can be proven wrong.

Hmmmm I think I'll go with option A and win by default.

Also why the hell would I use any of my time to search for evidence for your argument??? Come on man that is idiotic logic even for you.

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Your exact quote.

I really don't care what you think about TDKR haters, just understand that from here on out I am assuming that you agree with what they say


It is on your spaceace account page 2 of our messages.

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I didn't say that you made those comments you idiot. I only said you agreed with them. By your logic I'm not a rat much like how you didn't make the comments. You drew a false moral equivalency as you are a very bad at debating and comprehending basic logic.

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Which is why I said then you agree with ratting. I am holding you to the same standards. You assumed I made those comments therefore I assume you agree with ratting.

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But since you are a rat yourself you are worse than I am. You know IF I agreed with Nazism but I never murdered an innocent person that would not put me on the same level as Adolf Hitler.

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Nope we are using your logic. Remember you also said I belonged in prison for treason. You said this simply because I did not correct Trump haters. Not the definition of treason look it up before saying someone is guilty of it. Since you never corrected the rat you are guilty of ratting just like I am of treason. Your logic chief.

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Except that actually is treason, it is your implied duty as a citizen to defend your country and since you undermined your president by remaining silent you are guilty of treason. I didn't rat but you did.

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Remaining silent is not undermining. I can not be everywhere at once now can I? You are literally speaking against the 5th amendment. Do I not have the right to remain silent? You are like those cops who wants to put more charges on someone simply because they refuse to speak.

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True but you clearly knew about those comments and you did nothing. If you apologize and admit you were wrong I will give you a chance to correct the situation.

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Prove that I knew about them. Even if I did and said nothing that is not treason.

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OK fine go to the Donald Trump board, there are plenty of comments on there intended to denigrate and
undermine your president, go stand up for your president . I am giving you a second chance, things like this don't come around often. Defend your country and your honor.

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But what can I expect from the guy who apparently thinks its my burden of proof to prove your own damn argument.

PLEASE TELL ME YOU AREN'T A LAWYER OR INVOLVED IN ANY KIND OF LEGAL PROFESSION!

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LMAO. Skyler was a huge sloot!

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Skyler was the most pathetic excuse of a human being I have ever seen.

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Walter killed Jane when he was shaking Jesse violently Jane who was on her side was pushed back on her back, that's when she started choking Walter White murdered her

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Replying up here since that thread got too long. Nope I do not feel like defending him. I am not guilty of treason if I do not stand up for a president. That is now what treason means. So no I am not defending him. Do not like it do something about it.

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Very well then you just lost the argument. You did commit treason, you did rat. At the very worst if you twist logic around I agreed with ratting but that's not in the same ballpark.

Hippo wins another round (what else is new?).

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Nope look up the definition of treason. Read the definition and supply it here because clearly you have no understanding of what it means. You lost this round. Who am I kidding you lose every round lol.

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As a US citizen it is your patriotic duty to defend your country and your president from slander and personal attacks. You refuse to do so so you are a traitor.

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Once we are in court we will see how well your argument holds up. You have nothing other than the fact that you're salty that I dislike Trump. Don't talk to me about being Patriotic, people like you only want that when it's your candidate that is in office.

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I never tried to undermine Obama, I respectfully disagreed yet unfortunately he was too much of a baby to give his critics the same respect.

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If you did not correct all of the people who tried to undermine him you are guilty of treason by your logic. You know since people are expected to be every place at once.

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Please show me a post from Obama’s presidency where someone tried to undermine him and then show me proof that I saw it and did nothing

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Your posts don't go back that far now do they? Prove that I saw those posts. If I am guilty of treason go ahead and do something about it.

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So you’re conceding that you can back up your argument? Answer that and then I’ll answer you

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It is 2018 almost 2019. Obama has not been president for a few years. Your posts do not go back that far. So how would I prove that?

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If you can’t back up your claims then don’t make them. Think things through a little better next time

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Nice straw man. Anyhow you going to answer my question? Also you never proved that I saw those posts about Trump.

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I didn’t straw man at all, you made a claim that I remained silent on attacks against Obama, I asked you to back it up and you couldn’t. Or better yet just admit you have no evidence of me being guilty of treason

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You did not prove that I saw the attacks against Trump so I guess we are even. Prove that I saw them.

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Actually I did because I posted links to three of them.

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I never visited them therefore I never saw it. This is a losing argument for you since I never saw those attacks.

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First of all are you seriously expecting me to believe that you can click on a link? Secondly if you have a reasonable suspicion that treasonous activity is occurring you must investigate it. By not clicking on the links you committed treason

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I provided you with evidence, the fact that you are too damn stupid to click a link is your problem

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I didn't see it therefore this is a losing argument for you.

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It is your responsibility to investigate it and defend your president if needed. By not looking at it you have proven my point.

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If I'm guilty of treason as you claim why don't you do something about it?

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Why don’t you just man up and admit what you did now that you lost the argument

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Nah not going to admit something which is not true. If I was guilty of treason as you claim you would have done something about it. Since you have not done anything about it proves you have nothing. Or if it is true and you are doing nothing you are betraying your country lol.

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Why don’t you just turn yourself in and then all your complaints about me being a traitor will be resolved

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Nah. You're the one who claims to be patriotic. So I expect you to stand by your words. Take action or shut your mouth.

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OK I just sent a snapshot of this entire thread to the FBI. I have fulfilled my patriotic duty despite the fact that you are too chickensh!t to do the same.

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Okay I shall wait.

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Whether they decide to pursue this or not is irrelevant, I have done my patriotic duty while you are too much of a coward to do yours

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They will not pursue since I have not done anything. Someone disagreeing or not saying anything when someone bashes a president is not treason.

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Well let the proper authorities decide on that, the point still stands I did my patriotic duty yet you didn’t

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She was annoying. When she died, I shed no tears.

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Jane didn’t value her own life. Why should Walt?

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He ignored her plight because she had threatened to rat him out just a few hours earlier. Not because he was judging her for taking drugs. He almost decided to save her cause of his caring for Jesse (obviously cause Jesse liked her)

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Gee, thanks. I didn’t realize it was in his best interest for her to die.
I don’t care about his motivations for not helping her. It wasn’t his responsibility to do so to begin with.

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The way you said it, you made it sound like he hated her just cause she was a junkie. I just thought it was important to point out that he had an instinct to save her out of compassion, there was a bit where he almost moved towards her when he saw her choking.

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