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This series lost me after season 2


I initially loved this show when it first came out. I liked the idea of Walter White becoming a meth cook, and slowly reaching his way to the top. When Walter first started his operation, the story line just seemed more raw and realistic. I really liked the episodes with the meth crazed gangster Tuco. Those were actually some of the most memorable episodes. But once Walter got officially hooked up with a legit underground meth lab...the show just lost me. All suspense seemed to dissipate.

For a long time, I heard so many people praising this show in it's later years. But I just don't get it. Going into season 3, I just didn't find the show believable or interesting anymore. Did I miss something? Should I watch it again?

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Hey CD - first post on here since the IMBD days (see they carried old IMBD posts into here). I often posted about S2 being my favorite, realizing I was in the minority. But I do realize the later seasons are more refined and ramped up.

But in order to get from Mr. Chips to Scarface, you need to go from an ordinary guy (like most of our ordinary lives - which we can relate to) to something of a movie character type guy. I could really relate to Mr. White in S1 & S2 (and early S3), the guy who stood up to the teasing jocks in the clothing store, quit his job due to lack of respect, or even bought the wrong type of hats to pull off a methylamine heist. You didn't need to give too much artistic license to the earlier seasons, with the possible exception of the Tuco/Fulminated Mercury scene, in comparison to some of the scenes from the later seasons (such as the Gus "Face Off" scene).

Also, the style of the show needed to shift throughout this transition. The earlier seasons were more a mix of dark comedy, mixed with drama, while the later seasons had less comedy (but some) and more action/drama - in order to move closer to the Scarface character they were shooting for in the end.

Though I prefer the more relatable character of Mr. White from the early seasons, I accept the fact he needed to become less and less relatable as his character transformed. And the shift from dark comedy/drama to a greater amount of action/drama, to me, was offset by the great writing, impeccable attention to detail, refined filming, music montages, etc., etc. Still great, but different.

Try watching it again, but realize where they have to go, to get to Scarface. You might enjoy the ride this time.




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I remember loving season 1 when it was first on, and then I just wasn't interested in continuing. It was a great introduction but I guess I felt like the show would pretty much double down on the crime angle as it built toward the stated goal of having Walter save up enough money to secure his family before he died.

Just didn't feel like I needed to continue. We knew what was coming.

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Give it a shot. I binged it long after the show was over and I was so hooked, I watched the entire series in about a week.

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Yeah - I basically agree with this. I seem to be in a tiny minority, but I don't find it realistic that Walt would turn so bad. I understand that this is the major plot of the show, I got that - but it just seemed to go so far as to be completely unrealistic. Plus something seemed to go out of the show, and parts of it seemed a little more like a soap opera. All seasons were good and watchable, but there was a decline as the show went on, IMO.

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I agree 100%, in regards to your 'soap opera' statement. The show was becoming a bit soap opera-ish as time went on. I definitely noticed that. That seems to happen to a lot of good shows after a while. And I know what you mean by Walt's transition into a bad guy. It went over-the-top. I mean, after making so much money and gaining so much success, it got to the point to where I was like "what's the point?!" Breaking Bad is one of those shows that people really praised, and I just never understood why. Similar to the Walking Dead. lol

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"after making so much money and gaining so much success, it got to the point to where I was like "what's the point?!"

There is a point in the one of the last series where Jesse has that conversation with Walt.


I also agree it kinda lost something after S2 , but I guess it was either that , or finish , so im glad they carried on.

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My fave parts of BB are seasons 1 and 2, and then the final season.
It has a great opening and a great last five episodes or so, and for me it is the initial transition of Walt from nice Guy to the Guy who had pretty much tipped over to a bad guy by the end of season 2 that I loved the most.
After that it did become almost a typical (but excellent) crime show for seasons 3-5a
I just dipped into the start of Season 4 the other day and watched 3 episodes (E2-E4)... which I had not watched in a long time, and it was great really (that scene where Walt jokes to Hank 'Ya Got Me'... amazing). So it still really works for me 3-5a, but 1-2 where the best for me, and then the last five eps.

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I agree. The majority of fans prefer Seasons 4 & 5 as their favorite, but I'd chalk some of that up to a more refined show and a show that fits more of a crime drama than the dark comedy drama we get more of in the earlier seasons.

There's still some hints of dark comedy in the later seasons, but it's hard to inject that into a show that is moving the character more towards the Scarface goal they must eventually reach.

S1 & S2 are much more relatable to an ordinary person. Even though there are a couple scenes that are still a bit over the top for an ordinary person to relate to (such as the Tuco fulminated mercury scene), you can still put yourself in Walt's shoes for much of these seasons and ask "what would I do?". Crazy 8 in the basement, taken hostage by Tuco, Jane choking, etc. - would be some examples.

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I don't know if the first couple of seasons were any less over-the-top than later seasons. The entire series begins with pants flying through the air and Walt standing in the middle of the road in his tighty whities with a gun. You mention Tuco, but I always felt that guy was the most over the top bad guy in the show. The dude was almost unbelievably evil. Then there's the episode in which Walt blew up Tuco's office. That likely would have killed him and if it didn't, it's hard to believe some of Tuco's men wouldn't have shot him after wards. I agree that the comedy was downplayed a bit toward later episodes but I never considered it to be a very realistic show. Not that I wanted realism, mind you. I liked the quirkiness of it.

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Agree - there were still a few spots that were over the top in earlier seasons as well, but for the most part, these seasons covered issues that more "normal" people could relate to. This includes some things that are often glossed over in other shows. For example, one entire episode (S1E2) on how to dispose of a body - not typically a humorous topic, but the way they mixed humor into it - flipping a coin to choose jobs, picking out just the right size plastic tub, your teacher smoking your pot instead of taking care of business in the basement, a normally timid guy finally asking his wife to "climb down out of my ass" for the first time, and the eventual collapse of the bath tub..."So there's that".

Though you hopefully don't expect to get into the situation where you need to dispose of a body (or kill a guy who's a threat to your family - in the next episode), you can put yourself in his shoes and ask "what would I do". It gets a bit harder to do this later in the series, IMO, for most of the types of jams Walt gets into.

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True, the early episodes focused on glossed-over aspects of crime dramas such as disposing of a body or finding ways to launder money. Later episodes were more about mob wars and such with higher stakes. Still, I think there was something fun about seeing the timid everyman turn into a drug kingpin. It made me both hate and love Walt.

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To me it was after Gus died. Should have just ended the show after season 4 when Walt says I’ve won!

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