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Good,Bad,Ugly V.S. Good,Bad,Weird

posted 16 years ago by batigoallover
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No doubt the film is a remake of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (GBU). As a big fan for Leone's spaghetti westerns, I would like to hear your comparison between the two movies.

My ratings:

Plot: GBU-10,GBW-8.5
Both have GREAT stories, catches your eyes from the first minute to the last, I mean the main story. But GBU has more interesting episodes, or side stories, probably because it's longer. And, the ending of GBU is insurmountable.

Performance: GBU-10, GBW-9
I do love the Ugly and the Weird in both movies, fantastic! The Bads are both impressive. But the Eastwood's Good is definitely much better.

Music: GBU-10 GBW-7
I cannot even find a word to praise Morricone's score in GBU. But GBW offers no impressive music at all. I was waiting for a tune similar to The Esctasy for Gold, when the weird run towards the treasure, but nothing was heard at all, in almost 3 minutes!

Lines: GBU-10 GBW-7.5
GBW doesn't have sth similar interesting dialogues like "there are two kinds of people in the world, my friend, ......"

Action&Humor: GBU-9 GBW-9 (just personal feeling)

As remake is a difficult job, I think GBW is a very successful one! Love them both!

[–] GT1MIGHTYPIRATE 16 years ago

It's been a while since I've seen GBU...but if my memory serves me right I think I easily prefer GBW. Mainly because of my preference for the geographical/historical setting of GBW and my general dislike for all that is Clint Eastwood. I would also say that I found Byung-hun Lee brilliant as the Bad in this film. Far more so than the Angel Eyes character in GBU.

Also I'm not quite sure if this can be called a remake. While it was obviously inspired by GBU, the storyline is significantly different.

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[–] dempcy 16 years ago

It is a loose "remake" but you can tell they intentionally put very many homages to the original, not only in story but in attention to detail and certain shots. Perhaps we can call it an homage rather than a remake.

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[–] filippoaraujo 16 years ago

I don't think we can compare both films.

GBU is on a whole different league, it is MUCH better in every aspect.

[–] bumfromkorea 16 years ago

Hmm... I don't know if I would even make that comparison, since the intentions of the two movies are vastly different despite being in the same genre. It'd be like comparing the Master and the Commander (which I thought was a decent film... ignore the analogy if you didn't like it) to the Pirates of the Caribbean. Both about pirates, but the two movies would not be compared.

And there were several humorous references that one would not get without understanding Korean language or its modern culture. I laughed my @$$ off when the Weird took out his sunglasses and asked the Good "who are you?" the first time they meet, and when that opium dealer clapped for the barmaids in a certain rhythm.

[–] !!!deleted!!! (9013316) 16 years ago

Of course we can't call it a remake because it is done by Koreans instead of Americans which to me is *beep* just saying but I will give it the benifit of the doubt if it is a good movie.

[–] gullebulle 15 years ago

...um, the original movie is Italian.

[–] FairlyAnonymous 9 years ago

You do know what they are called spaghetti westerns... right?

They were made by Italians...

[–] grinten38 16 years ago

The good the bad and th eugly beats this Korean adaptation hands down. I fell asleep last night after 10 minutes, woke up shortly after that, and struggled to really like the adaptation for the rest of the movie. It has some great scenes, and great camera work as well, and I like the main character, but the overall product does not satisfy. Too bad,as I had great expectations.

[–] moonbal 15 years ago

Is this a joke? There's no way you can even compare the two in the same sentence.
GBW was garbage in terms of plot.

[–] sheeraz_abc 15 years ago

I think GBW is better, just for pure entertainment value. I acknowledge that it did not have a great plot, but I dont really watch movies to learn life changing lessons. There was never a dull moment throughout the movie, whereas GBU is three hours long and had me wanting to fast forward at some points. Many people here who are saying GBU is better have probably not seen both films, and are going by GBU's reputation.

[–] rickamortis 15 years ago

That was pretty dumb. I have seen both films, and while I really enjoy GBW, GBU is a timeless classic. It is a genre defining masterpiece. Much like Once Upon a Time in the West, another really long film. To admit that you considered fast forwarding through GBU, just tells me you have a very small attention span and can't appreciate real cinema.

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[–] TobyCharlesDavies 14 years ago

But GBU is a timeless classic so your argument falls at the first hurdle.

[–] sabialek 14 years ago

A lot of great cinema is slow-paced...and a lot of great cinema is fast-paced. You get off your high-horse, if you're going to try and take down a film that is generally regarded as a classic you had better come up with some constructive criticism as to why.

[–] pfnuesel 15 years ago

I do fully agree with your ratings, but I wouldn't say, that GBW is a remake of GBU. It has also lots of references to the two other movies of Leone's Dollars Trilogy, like the scene where the bad guy shoots the hat while the weird guy tries to take it. Or, of course, the last scene in GBW, which is more or less the first scene in 'For A Few Dollars More'. Also how he films the faces of the three contenders in the end is a clear homage to Leone, not only to GBU.

So I would rather call this movie a homage to the Dollars Trilogy as a remake of GBU, even when the references to GBU clearly overweight. But it also introduces lots of other aspects.

Some people think that the plot of GBW was lame. Well, so was GBU in a way, I mean, both movies do not go very deep, I'd say, but that does not make a good/bad movie.

I loved both of them, GBU is maybe my all time favorite, while GBW entered the top something today, as I watched it the first time.

[–] cragg76 15 years ago

I really have to disagree with the music comments.
I thought GBW has a fantastic score! And the song when they are all racing towards the gold and the Good shows up on his horse and starts blasting everyone away was epic. Fantastic choice. Am sure i've heard it before....?

I think GBW is better in terms of entertainment and fun. The film flew by and there was really no dull bits.

[–] Teddybear_93 14 years ago

You may think you'd heard the tune before cause in the very background was a nice little tribute to GBU's score... listen out for it

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[–] nymos 14 years ago

You heard it before because it's the instrumental parts to Don't let me be misunderstood by Santa Esmeralda. Tarantino used it in Kill Bill vol.1
other movies used it before that. Unoriginal choice.
Seriously, the score here is nothing compared to GBU.

[–] gstoo513 15 years ago

I think that the director of GBW may have cursed himself by making the film a homage right in the title. It deserves to stand on its own right within the genre (which it does, quite successfully, IMO) not be compared directly to what is generally considered one of the best. At the same time, he would have understandably had the film world come down on his head if he had borrowed the way he did from some of the scenes were it not a homage/parody, and since the three-way standoff and Do-Won dragging Tae-Goo through the desert were a couple of my favorite scenes, it would be sad not to have them there.

Overall, I probably agree with with the OP on all points except one, and that's the music rating. Which I strongly disagree.

Seriously? The opening music with the train running through the desert (I'm glad it was good music, too. I'm not a big fan of CGI, and to have the CGI birds right at the start made me worry that I'd misplaced my faith and wasted my 2000 yen) trapped me right at the beginning. It did well at carrying the moods most of the time and, at one point during a mad-cap chase through the desert, when one of the characters makes a sudden appearance, I very nearly cheered. It certainly made my blood pump harder. The first thing I did upon returning home was buy the soundtrack, even. ^^; It's fun music for a darn fun movie.