throughout the movie you see American infantry responding with fully automatic fire. Is that even the LEAST bit accurate?? I was under the assumption that modern troops use in like, 98% of all cases semi-auto ONLY. Full-auto seems like a huge waste of ammo, and it seems to me that marksmanship and that sort of important stuff would take a dramatic hike, no? The first shot is always the best and all that, yes??
I'm obviously not an expert on the matter - don't own a gun and have not even fired one, though that'll one day change.
Any thoughts and replies are obviously more than welcome here
Yes you are correct, the majority of shots especially from issued M4A1s are trained and fired on semi-auto as it reduces muzzle climb and you can keep your sights on the target accurately and for longer.
The automatic fire should be down the Squad Gunner with a SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon) such as M249 light machine gun (5.56mm round) or the older M60 (7.62mm round) which is still used by Navy SEALs, US Army and US Marine Corps which use the M60E3 and M60E4 mainly because of the greater range. Marine Corps doctrine states that it is capable of suppressive fire on area targets out to 1,500 meters if the gunner is highly skilled.
After experiences in the Vietnam War there were new recruits who would fire on automatic and after that first shot the rest of the rounds are going to go straight over the enemy's head!
The action was also modified, replacing the fully automatic setting with a three-round burst setting. When using a fully automatic weapon, inexperienced troops often hold down the trigger and "spray" when under fire. The U.S. Army concluded that three-shot groups provide an optimum combination of ammunition conservation, accuracy and firepower. Several Marine units utilise modified rifles that support fully automatic fire capabilities. The USMC has retired the M16A2 in favour of the newer M16A4. However, many M16A2s remain in US Army, Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard service
These days the M4 is Semi/Burst and the M4A1 is Semi/Auto with the onus on the shooter not to spray everywhere.
What is ridicules is the when the British PMC gets onto the M2 .50 cal Crew Served Weapon on the Humvee and just starts firing wildly into the desert aiming at nothing, wasting ammo with an active sniper taking out your colleagues. He is easily picked off and should have found cover and worked out where the bullets are coming from!
If you watch Black Hawk Down you will notice that the Rangers are carrying M16A2s which have three options, safe, semi, 3 round burst. The automatic fire is left to the Squad Gunners carrying the (7.62mm) M60 or the (5.56mm) FN Minimi standing in for the M249-E1 SAW.
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Full auto is used during assaults, when it is not possible to aim, to suppress enemy and in close combat. For example, when rebel fired shot form balcony and ignited car, US soldiers would very likely go full auto. SAW man didn't have chance to set up firing position, they had to suppress the rebel!BTW some of soldiers fired semi in the scene!
Over all they used full auto correctly, with exception of PMC firing his stock less AK full auto while actually trying to hit prisoners.
As for .50 cal "wasting ammo", Firing at random positions in ambush is actually something used in real combat!
In real combat hitting enemy is not that important, suppressing the enemy is much more important, especially in situations showed in movie! BTW in Iraq and Afghanistan US troops fired 250k bullets for every killed insurgent.
Long story short, full auto/burst fire is used correctly, when soldier doesn't have time to line up the shot, doesn't know exactly where enemy or tries to create volume of fire to suppress the enemy.
My friend from military once told me that they often ignore various rules like this because depending on circumstances they got away with it . But my friend could be exaggerating it all too.
Those carrying the M4 or various builds of it are to fire on semi. Firing on burst or auto is extremely inaccurate and also blows through ammo.
Firing on auto is left to the M249 squad automatic weapon (SAW) and M240B. Even then, we are told to only fire at a cyclical rate of fire...not a continuous stream as that defeats the purpose (and also goes through ammunition quickly) which is suppressive in nature.
As another poster stated, the man who jumped on the .50 cal started off well (suppressing the enemy, allowing his mates to find cover). However, he get carried away, started burning ammunition, and made himself a very easy target for the sniper.
Semi: accurate and saves ammo. Auto/Burst: suppressive, not as accurate, burns through ammo.
The "cyclical" rate of fire is simply how fast the weapon could conceivably fire with unlimited ammo. It is usually stated as "rounds per minute." An M60, for example, has a cyclical rate of fire of around 600 rpm. The SAW is generally between 700 and 1000 rpm.
In general, a machine gun such as the M60/M240 is used in either "sustained" or "rapid" fire modes. Since you cannot control the cyclical rate (with some minor exceptions), you control how many rounds per minute you fire by controlling how long each burst is, and how many bursts you fire in a certain amount of time.
As an example, here are the definitions for the M240B from the applicable Army Field Manual (FM 3-22.68 Jan 2003):
Sustained rate of fire: 100 Rounds per minute fired in 6 to 9 round bursts and 4 to 5 seconds between bursts. Barrel change every 10 minutes.
Rapid rate of fire: 200 Rounds per minute fired in 10 to 13 round bursts and 2 to 3 seconds between bursts. Barrel change every 2 minutes.
Cyclic rate of fire:650 to 950 Rounds per minute fired in continuous bursts. Barrel change every minute.
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