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I love the bitter Survivor Man fans.


Let it go the shows is way more entertaining.

"From hence fourth we are to be known as team SuperAwesomeCoolDynomiteWolfSquadron"

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And thats the thing. Entertaining shows are the ones that last... Blame the producers of Survivorman for failing not Bear for succeeding.

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agreed bear entertains and shows you how to survive if *beep* hits the fans les was like watching paint dry .

"From hence fourth we are to be known as team SuperAwesomeCoolDynomiteWolfSquadron"

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shows you how to survive if *beep* hits the fans and you have a camera crew, support crew, safety crew, producer, director, hotel reservations and a script to follow.


I fixed it for you.

Your're Welcome and Enjoy.

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That was clever and humourous.

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Obviously what did you think was holding the camera a Yeti

"From hence fourth we are to be known as team SuperAwesomeCoolDynomiteWolfSquadron"

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Of course I know he has a camera crew. But the statement "bear shows you how to survive if *beep* hits the fan" just isn't true. Do you think Bear would do half the crap he does if he didn't have his entire crew (including director and producer) with him? So Bear isn't showing us how to survive. Bear is showing us how to pretend to survive when you have a camera crew, support crew, safety crew, producer, director, hotel reservations and a script to follow.

It's really not that hard to understand.

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I will repeat this again because obviously you are slow I said "shows you" I said nothing about him doing it himself. Please do not act like this guys is sum family feud host. He has climbed Everest, served in the army and just broke his shoulder "pretending". His shows is light years more entertaining then the one man survivor show.Which is like watching paint dry.

PS:I assume you seen the Survivorman where Les has a FLAME THROWER to ward of leporads and lions.Yaaaa he was really roughing it.

"From hence fourth we are to be known as team SuperAwesomeCoolDynomiteWolfSquadron"

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Uhuh it's called selective thinking where YOU choose what you want to hear/see and spin it in your favor. When bear went to Africa he went bare no "hot air ballon burner" but we won't acknowledge that can we lets keep refering back to the life jacket incident.

Les survives, Bear shows you how to leave the wild in one piece. Les doesn't have to do a QUARTER of the dangerous stuff that Bear does plain and simple.

"From hence fourth we are to be known as team SuperAwesomeCoolDynomiteWolfSquadron"

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Again he only "shows you" if you have the crew he has. If you were lost would you (without a crew) do any of the stunts he A"shows you"? What he "shows you" is based around the fact that he has that crew.

So again he only "shows you" how to do things IF you have a huge support crew.

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I love to break it to you, YES he would so would I. Not all survivors can have a hot air ballon burner lieing around. He scaled Mt. Everest without "his crew" and went to Antartica without "his crew". If I am lost I don't want to know how I can live there I want to know how to get the *beep* OUT.

"From hence fourth we are to be known as team SuperAwesomeCoolDynomiteWolfSquadron"

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it's pointless arguing with a human bear google hate expert. They are the republicans of the survival sites. They only google what they want to hear. Bear>Les.

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I watched a few Survivorman epi but he's way too canadian, bland and boring.

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Care to better inform anyone? Or are you just a "Bear-hater hater"?

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First, what does scaling Mt. Everest have to do with wilderness survival?

Second, he (like everyone else today) had quite a bit of help in scaling Mt. Everest.

And you said "Bear shows you". I simply corrected you in the it isn't just Bear. You know this, I know this...everyone knows bear has a crew, yet you stated that "Bear shows you". Again, all I did was correct your statement. You could just say thank you.

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Fact is, this is a TV show so somehow he has to make it somewhat entertaining so it's not canceled, after all this is his job, if having a camera crew accomplishes that, then so be it. Just because he has a camera crew does not take away this guys guts and bravery, he still does some crazy *beep* Are you guys doubting his abilities or something?

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I tried to stay away but, I'll drop my two cents.
True MvW is more entertaining than Survivorman.
Why is MvW more entertaining?
Bear Grylls Has a crew on-site. Why is this important?
-Because He's got lot more safety nets than Les Stroud. This allows Bear to do more over the top stuff while being relatively safe.
-Bear does not have to worry about carrying camera gear and filming his "exploits". Les Stroud, on the other hand, has to lug around all that AND film his "exploits"
-Survival is relatively boring. Gather food, make shelter, wait for rescue. Bear's excessive climbing and diving can risk the average guy on the same situation to get hurt or dead.

Now the "Bear's showing you what to do to survive" defense is overrated. We all know that the crew catches his food, or sets it up for him. (Info added on the re-edited episodes.) He's doing his adventure in "The wild" close to civilization.
Oh wait. So he just shows you, doesn't need to do it... then why don't we just watch somebody ACTUALLY doing it... Than someone re-enacting it.

Les survives, Bear shows you how to leave the wild in one piece. Les doesn't have to do a QUARTER of the dangerous stuff that Bear does plain and simple.
Um... Les doesn't have to do a quarter of the "dangerous" stuff that Bear does, because the key to survival is to avoid danger. Bear can afford to do his "dangerous" (Controlled stunts with safety equipment hidden or in plain sight) stuff. Because of the crew and the safety nets.

Fact is, this is a TV show so somehow he has to make it somewhat entertaining so it's not canceled, after all this is his job, if having a camera crew accomplishes that, then so be it. Just because he has a camera crew does not take away this guys guts and bravery, he still does some crazy *beep* Are you guys doubting his abilities or something?

That's the misconception about the camera crew. A long time ago, the original airings of the earliest MvW episodes had Bear "on his own" trying to survive against the wild. The camera crew were just recording the action without interfering with Bear's survival.
Building Shelters, finding food for Bear IS interfering with his "survival".(the re-edited episodes specify some of the crew's actions to aid Bear.)
Bear's got some skills, but they're downplayed whenever a re-edited episode reveals that some of the mighty bad-ass stuff that Bear's done was actually done thanks to the unknown crewperson that saved Bear's hide.



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I can't wait for Michael Bay to direct Care Bears. Using real bears so it can be more realistic.

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At least Les can catch his own rabbit. Bear can't even do that. Bear is better at drinking his own pis though. And makes a great elephant dung smoothie.

"I just wasn't made for these times" - Brian Wilson

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every point you make is spot on, but most grylls supporters wont bother listening, instead they'll spew an ad hominem fallacy equating survivorman fans to republicans. in truth, the only ones really exhibiting an inability to listen are the MvW fans as they dont accept any logical explanations which makes it pretty clear why Les is not only a superior outdoorsman, but why what Bear does is pure sensationalism that will convey the wrong message of what to do in the wilderness.

on top of that, i think it is a bit sickening that grylls will go out of his way to kill and eat animals for an exciting camera shot even though he is not actually starving whereas stroud always tries to explain the environmental consequences and will only actually kill for SURVIVAL!

furthermore, how do you think grylls injured himself in Antarctica? i'd wager that he was doing something incredibly idiotic. he invalidates his own skills by trying to create an exciting show. in my opinion, it comes off as tacky and annoying.

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"You're wrong. Grylls never talked about the Hansel and Gretel trick. Why would he since his show is based on him tackling the wilderness "all alone"."


Actually kiddo, you would be wrong.


In an episode he gets a long strand of vine to trail behind him to be sure he's heading straight. But hey, great attempt at being an elitist smart*** :)

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Let's back up, you cited him not using "Hansel and Gretel" logic. That logic being, leaving a trail behind to assure you don't get lost.

He tied the vine in order to make sure he wasn't turning, aka, getting lost.

I'm merely pointing out where you were wrong, I suggest you stop sacrificing logic in favor of being a smartass.

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Idiots like being entertained rather than informed in a semi-serious manner. That is why people like mylobage like the show. Bear's show is kinda like a joke if you get my drift. Not really showing you much other than watching him rampage through the area like a lunatic. Sure some of Bears stuff will help you, but really most will get you killed. I guess if you want to turn your brain to the off setting man vs. wild is the show for you.

Survivorman wasn't about over the top adventures. It was showing you reality, what really happens when you don't have whole production crew around you helping you the whole way. Bear is a clown, while Les is a real man. People who don't get that are just living in denial.

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Well if you really want to be able to survive in the wild this still has good ideas backed up by a professional, and it's not bear who comes up with every survival technique they have a survival consultant for that.

"Sure some of Bears stuff will help you, but really most will get you killed"
If you really thought that you should do everything he does just because he does it you have to be a retard.. (not saying that you are a retard btw)

"Bear is a clown, while Les is a real man"
Translation: Bear is entertaining to watch while watching les is as boring as watching laundry dry..

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If you really thought that you should do everything he does just because he does it you have to be a retard.. (not saying that you are a retard btw)


To be fair, they are airing it as an educational show saying "You can do this", if something is false, or poor advice, it should not be aired, which they have done in the past (taking episodes off, editing, re-airing, or simply removing altogether.)

Not to say that people shouldn't take their personal situation into consideration before following the show word for word.

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I love both the shows. Granted, Man vs Wild is a tad more entertaining simply because the host is a crazy ex-special forces british guy. But I can learn a lot from both shows. I like Survivorman for it's solitude and calmness, it's very relaxing. Whereas Man Vs Wild is constantly moving, talking, and doesn't get nearly as many scenic shots because the camera is normally on bear.

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I think you could say Survivorman is about surviving without any help
while Man vs Wild is really about being RESCUED, which is why he does all that crazy stuff (and because it's entertaining of course)..

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