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Gratuitous OGLING of young teenage girls...

posted 15 years ago by Spellbinder888
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Did anybody notice how there were some moments where all that was happening was lingering shots of the girls' bodies, whether in swimsuits, naked or in underwear? The plot was really slowed by this and I quite frankly got bored. I suppose men don't get bored while watching this and THAT's the point

I suppose I'm directing this mostly at fellow women because men are invariably blinkered by their inherent perving of young girls (apologies for those of you who are evolved enough to let your brain overule your..).

Anyway, as a woman not long out of her teens I didn't identify with any of the characters. I understand why film makers distort the truth a little for the sake of art but girls like this just don't exist.

I didn't kiss my girlfriends. None of us acted like highly sexualised creatures but ultimately didn't want sex. I know its an interesting contradiction but its not very real. We were tentatively interested in sex at age 14 or whatever but I suppose that doesn't satisfy middle aged men.

To WHOM is this film aimed??? Just men?

Was the theme of synchronised swimming just another way to pack more young female bodies into one frame? It didn't have anything to do with the plot.

I didn't like this - it reeked of gratuitous seediness. Quite dull too.

[–] voided-1 15 years ago

I think you're missing the point, here. Did you realise that the writer/director is female, so clearly the film is not intended as some sort of perve-fest for men. The film is about adolescence and all 'that' encompasses, hence we don't see any adults.

"Don't leave us in the dark!"

[–] poushkine 15 years ago

You mean it is a perv fest for lesbian pedophiles? As a healthy male - I was not excited, but repulsed by the gratuitous amounts of underage erotics.

[–] kimboland-1 15 years ago

Just because you dont act like this with your gf's doesn't mean girls like this dont exist. Thats just a stupid and truly blinkered way to look at life. Almost as dumb as your generalisations of men.

[–] Howlin Wolf 15 years ago

Well the writer and director of the film is a young woman herself, so I'd suggest that if she is able to identify with her protagonists, then some others in her position ought to be able to, as well...

Let me get this right: you're saying you don't think there is such a thing as adolescents (in this case, girls... ) who are confused about their sexuality?!

Do you like having sex? Then DON'T buy a Nintendo!

[–] craigus_d 15 years ago

I feel SO patronised.

I know you would reply saying that you realised that not all men are like that, but you still directly implied that by default men are all drooling pervs ... unless we are very special ones who have broken from the pattern and "evolved enough" to actually use our brain, so that's what you obviously think.

Evolved "enough"? So there's no such thing as a smart man, just one who has "evolved [just] enough" to be able to barely think with his brain? That coupled with the idea that the average man is a raging pervert & paedophile is just incredibly sexist. I'm sorry, but maybe you just have really bad taste in men? Not my fault.

It's an incredibly boring film.

[–] lathe-of-heaven 15 years ago

Well said Craig!!!

And, since I too am an avid groin-toting, perv-drooling admirer of young girls who also happens to like chocolate covered shaved monkeys (female) I also am COMPLETELY outraged that we are being singled out by this, this, WOMAN, who feels somehow that we are inferior just because we REALLLLLLLLLLLY get off seeing all these gratuitously young, naked, semi-naked, mostly-naked, and almost naked younger girls! Who the HELL does she think she is anyway???!!

GEEZ, talk about bloody NARROW minded...!!! Now, you will hafta excuse me, I need to get back to my VERY young monkey...

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[–] NoelLiebtSie 15 years ago

Obvious that's what it will be all about. It's a trend with french female filmmakers to be sellouts adopting wholeheartedly the usual contrived 'male gaze' representations yawn

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[–] tomkattent-1 14 years ago

girls 14-17 date guys 21-37 these days

i seen it in cali, tx, colrado, wa, n york, nv and arizona
i been to 48 states and 12 countries.
Its like men going for these lolitas throwing
themself at older guys cuz the boys
thier age are immature.
If one was doing a film documentary on
this topic itd be near pedo but
not all the older guys r jerks
or trying to rape or hurt
girls. Some of these 21 yr olds
married 15 and 16 yr olds with parents
consent and they treat them fine
they dont hurt them
so sex is art these days i guess.

[–] TheMadHattress 14 years ago

I enjoyed this film but I was constantly questioning how old the actresses were portraying the characters. There were definitely lingering shots, particularly of breasts, and I did feel uncomfortable with those scenes, because the camera did not appear natural - at times it appeared fixated on parts of the girls and as a straight female viewer, I found it a little awkward. That said, this movie is not gratuitous and nor does it exploit its characters.

[–] jimthing1 14 years ago

The camera lingered on girls changing, because it was showing how awkward they may have felt about their own bodies in comparison with their peers at such an age. And also because it was contrasting how Marie and her chubby friend in particular were aware of the other girls around them in their peer group, and in Marie's case, any amorous feelings she may have been dealing with.

Without "lingering" in such shots, the point would be missed.

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[–] sc_taylor 9 years ago

@Circleskies - brilliant response to an ignorant and puerile thread!