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Terrible, why ELLIS? BEE could fix.

posted 15 years ago by dir_by_ade
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This film was amazingly bad. Possibly one of the worse things I have seen. But it might not be do to BEE. I have waited to see this for the longest. And one that BEE helped write the script for. It has been stated that the script was one thing one way and they hired a director who took it elsewhere...
OKAY, I can accept that. So why doesn't BEE go the Tarantino route and release the screenplay like Tarantino did Natural Born Killers. Instead of writting about it on myspace, just drop the script on us.

[–] b-havens 15 years ago

Ellis was hired to adapt the screen play he worked on it for THREE years. They had a solid director in place and signed the cast and Bret took too long. The director gave up and quit and they had to race to make this movie or not make it at all. Considering the situation they did the best they could.

Ellis pumped out a lengthy script that I'm sure was awesome and I along with the die-hard fans of his wanted to see badly. -BUT- we're not the target audience the target audience can't sit through a 2 hour plus movie. So they trimmed Bret's script down to 90 pages and tried their best to market the film to the target audience.

They dumped a brazilian dollars down this movie and they tryed to scramble and turn a profit or at least recoup something. Making movies isn’t about making a great movie it’s about making money. (Unfortunately)

You're a disease, and I'm the cure.

[–] mgodfatherml 15 years ago

Personally I just think the director didn't and still doesn't give a damb. Not only did he trim Ellis' script but he then cut about 45 minutes out of the movie. And from what I heard the footage really helped establish and collaborate on a lot.

[–] b-havens 15 years ago

I really doubt a director cut out 45 mins of footage he shot just to do it. If he cut anything he was forced to do so. I'm all for directors cuts, I wish this movie had one it would be extended as they all are but I don't think we'll ever get one.

You're a disease, and I'm the cure.

[–] UberNoodle 15 years ago

Gregor Jordan has a lot of talent and love for his work. I don't think that he would treat his own work in such a way. He made the film the way that he could, given the time. Attacking the director is often the wrong thing to do. So many films have ended up less than they could have because of powers higher up. How could you be part of THIS community and not have that perspective?! You constantly read about how film makers must succumb to various pressures. I wonder if the director had been a familiar name, if the comments about his would be different.

[–] FatKidWithGlasses 15 years ago

What I'd like to know is does Ellis ever write anything that isn't set in the 80's? (Obviously not a fan, but American Psycho was OK)

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[–] dir_by_ade 15 years ago

To answer your question, YES. Glamaroma was set in the 90's.

It still sounds like a bunch of excusses. Okay, it's a pretty bad film so lets blame this one or that one. It just wasn't enjoyable and was painful. It hurt so much to get through. And I love BEE. But BEE can get his work Published. Tarantino publishes his scripts. And when upset over Natural Born Killers he has script published and let that stand for what he wanted and see the difference. And in interviews I hear BEE say the film is the film, it's the directors work, it's not the script I wrote. OKAY, really, so freaking release the script, VAMPIRES and ALL. I adore his words, his humor, and his speech. But good god man, its so easy to bitch and complain and point the finger. To redeem the treasure that was to be.

Many want this directors cut of 45 extra minutes that would just feel like teeth being pulled. Makes no sense. Acting was not good. The look was a bit annoying, the whole thing was all over the place. There was a hint of some notion that BEE had existed on the project, some themes of his were there.
But as it furthered on, he became transparent, he was not here, and was left was a shell of something he worked with, not on.

Please BEE, script, published, leaked, added to your next book, or even to my email. Love your books, the movies from them (except this one), he inspired me to want to read more.