how could she let them just die?
so what if they pulled a prank on her? Get over it bitch!
She didn't even send the elevator back down for them.
so if she thought it was a prank again, how in the hell were they going to get back up?
Those werewolves chicks should have ran that little bitch over!!
Hm. I disagree. These were ne'er-do-well kids who elaborately planned and carried out a cruel joke on a child who was mentally half their age. Rhonda was like Carrie - innocently taken in by fake kids, who were only out to have fun at her expense. Even after they saw how badly she got hurt, and even after they saw how upset the prank made her, they still didn't care. Kids who are ***holes, grow up to be ***holes. Those ***holes didn't get a chance to grow up in exchange for further damaging another child. Sounds like sweet movie justice to me.
(However, Rhonda didn't have her glasses anymore and was out cold for a couple of minutes, so perhaps she truly thought it was an attempt at another joke?)
so, those children deserve to die just because of that?
shareI think Rhonda knew she had to leave them.They didn't abide by the rules and keep their pumpkins lit. She seemed more hurt than vengeful. Beside, Sam was waiting at the top of the quarry. He may have killed all of them, including Rhonda for not following the rules. By leaving them see may have very well saved her own life. Also, I agree that those a$$holes deserved it. That Macy girl got on my nerves, she seemed like a real beotch. I feel a little sorry for Shrader. He seem to genuinely care about Rhonda. I think he should have lived.
shareI think it was her lit pumpkin that saved her from Sam.
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DrTerriGenius: so, those children deserve to die just because of that?
nope i still don't believe they deserved to die. maybe if they were more evil, but they did not seem evil enough to me for them to die.
shareI don't know. Macy sure seemed evil, or at the very least, had the making of becoming someone evil. I mean, I kid that young already acting like that. Rhonda may have done the world a favor. I do have to agree that the rest of the kids weren't near as bad, but they suffered the consequences of their actions.
shareIn part I agree with you DrTerry, I hate it when children die in movies but it is a movie after all and in movies not only the bad guys die. I worry more when they die in real life.
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I don't think they were evil, with the exception of Macy. The others just went along with a hurtful prank and never thought about the consequences. Bad, but not worthy of a death sentence. When Rhonda was crying and Schrader was comforting her you could tell Sara and Chip felt bad (and Chip was about to walk over and help her before Macy stopped him).
However, Macy, who I'm guessing orchestrated the whole thing, was pretty evil. It takes a lot of effort, planning and thought to set up such an elaborate and cruel prank on a young classmate with what was implied to be Asperger's. And whilst the others felt bad about it, Macy just seemed annoyed the prank ended so soon after Rhonda tripped.
I don't think being mean is worthy of a death sentence and being eaten alive by zombies though. But I don't think Rhonda is a bitch for leaving them behind, to me it seemed she thought it was another prank.
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yeah but they mentioned the elevator having a weight limit so i'm sure it wouldnt have supported all the extra weight of them hanging on trying to ride it up
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Assuming this was not a one-off occurrence and their personalities were always like that - yes.
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Yes, they do. Bullies deserve to get what's coming to them.
shareI wouldn't say Rhonda was "mentally half their age." When they called her an idiot-savant, they meant she had Asperger's, which is called high-functioning autism now. I've known people with Asperger's and they aren't mentally stuck as little kids. The way I see it, Rhonda was probably a social outcast who was a way into a scial circle (albeit a false one) and took it.
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Agreed. She seemed quite intelligent, just didn't fit in socially.
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Kids who are ***holes, grow up to be ***holes.
I smirked.. they diserved it for the way they treated her just because she was born that way... she didn't think it was another prank she knew what was happening in the end.. those kids got there.. just desserts.
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Karma is a real beyotch, man. Those kids shouldn't have decided to play a cruel prank on a mentally challenged girl in an area where a bunch of kids died. Its amusing to me how in so many horror films people decide to go to places that you clearly should avoid. "Hey let's venture into that old abandoned meat packing plant." Or "Dude we should head over to the dark cemetery and dig up some corpses!" So it was natural for a horror movie about Halloween to have kids doing something that stupid, and of course paying for it.
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Others have alluded to this, but I actually think Rhonda knew the other kids were doomed or meant to die after they violated the rules of Halloween (unlit pumpkins). For example, she heard the werewolves earlier in the night, so she had advanced sense about the supernatural that the other kids didn't. Sam was waiting and the looks that he and Rhonda shared indicated that she knew the rules.
shareTotally agree. The look that her and Sam exchanged totally made it feel like she knew a lot more than she seemed to know.
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yeah, she should have at least saved Schrader. He was cute and also didnt seem to be as mean as the other kids
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the girl told rhonda that it could only hold three safely so while all would be fighting to get in they might cause HER pumpkin to become unlit and she would not be protected from sam or zombie kids.
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How could they have pulled a trick on a child that is mentally challanged? Hell, Macy didn't even want to stop, even though she knew Rhonda was terrified. But all arguments aside, it's a MOVIE!!!!
shareActually I think I understand why the kids died now and Sam didn't kill Rhonda. Because those kids had been victims of a cruel trick themselves for having learning difficulties and mental disabilities, Rhonda who in herself also had some form of disability had a cruel prank played on her that almost cost her, her life. Because she fell backwards remember and cracked her head on a rock or stone, imagine if that had been a longer fall or a bigger rock she could have died. It scared her so much she couldn't breath properly, she was in a total panic. It was a nasty prank and while one of the boys actually felt bad for doing it and checked on her to see if she was ok and apologise he still did it in the first place. So those undead disabled kids killed em for it. Also little sam was in the picture with the other undead disabled kids who were on the coach, I saw him in it as the picture burned. So was he just part of the undead kids crew? I think he was just there to observe. He let Rhonda go because Rhonda was true to the traditions of Halloween and also what had happened to her she didn't deserve to die. So I kind of understand now why those kids got killed. As for why Rhonda didn't help them, she was in pure and utter shock. Don't forget her mental age was half of what theirs was and always will be. She was put in a high pressure, cruel situation that probably really *beep* her up. I think her main concern was getting away from the kids who had pulled that horrid prank on her and go home where she felt safe. She was a bit like a walking zombie.
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I kind of have to agree, this story didn't quite sit right with me.
For one thing it doesn't quite seem to fit. A major element of this anthology is people getting their comeupins. You have a serial killer of children, he gets his comeupins, you have the bus driver responsible for childrens death, he gets his comeupins, that's two child killers getting theirs, then in the middle, some dumb kids scare someone on Halloween, and...get comeupins?
I say if your going to kill a bunch of kids I better really hate them, or it needs to be done in a way that I don't just go, jeez, that was a bit much. They somehow accomplished this with the scene with Wilkins in the grave, he did horrible things to whoever was in that bag, but by them not realistically crying for mercy and actually fighting back enough to annoy Wilkins while he keeps getting interrupted, here we have a good example of very Dark humor that works.
So I'd say the scene would have worked better if we didn't hear them dying so horribly. I would have let Rhonda walk out of the lift without those sounds.
Leslie Bibb gets hers for for blowing out a lantern. The movie doesn't seem to be gearing its murderous exploits at only those who deserve it.
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What you are all forgetting, is repentance does not buy you out of sin - ergo Shrader still didn't pass muster despite recognising what he did was wrong. This is a Christian belief. Halloween is a pagan ritual. Although some Christian beliefs have roots in pagans beliefs - I don't think repentence is one of them, and this is fiction - I think the movie does make sense.
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