The story only works if Mari dies. It all becomes a Shakespearean tragedy where no one really escapes. Letting her live is a cop out and somehow seems to decrease the sense of the horrific crimes being committed.
shareThis should be tagged as crime instead of horror. And I agree with you, totally. Mari "should've" died, not that I wanted it of course not but It'd been more effective and horrifying. Irreversible though definitely succeeded.
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Even though Mari dying would have been powerful it would have been an expected cliche. Sometimes a nice new surprise is in order.
shareA cliche for the leading woman of a horror film to die two thirds of the way into the movie? I don't think so.
These movies always have one female survivor, maybe more. The surprise of the original was her dying, we're with her from the beginning, we expect her to make it and in this remake, she does.....
Not necessarily. What was done to Mari and what she had to experience is the same either way. She was terrorized, tortured and physically and emotionally raped and assaulted,forced to watch her best friend get murdered in a very agonizing way and was shot and left for dead. ..and then she gets to live with all that forever. Nothing changes what their intentions were and what they did to her.
Murder is not the worst thing you can do to a person. Torture is.
Nothing could be done to them that they didn't deserve.
I'm sorry but, after watching this film, I felt it was nice to see that horror movies have NOT been watered down.
I didn't think Mari living hurt this film in anyway - quite the opposite, in fact.
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Mari HAS to live.. She needs to convey her story to her parents for their motivation for their killings. Otherwise they just think that Justin has her necklace w/o a reason.
However "watered down" was a great choice of words!
"You shoot me in the face and I'll kick your ass!!"
No, she HAS TO DIE. That's the whole damn point of the story. Have you never seen the Bergman or Craven films?
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!
Wrong. You're completely forgetting about the parents, and the worst thing for them would indeed be for their daughter to die. Do you not think any parent who's had their child murdered would prefer it were torture and assault instead? The point is that their little girl is gone forever, that they have to bury her. That is the kind of thing that causes their grief to turn lethal, not having her roughed up but live.
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!
The original is more disturbing, but I think the remake is a slightly better overall movie.
shareIt's not watered down. Purely in a story standpoint, she needed to live so the parents would know that their guests were criminals. But other than that, she suffered through so much already. That is hardly watered down.
share"Purely in a story standpoint, she needed to live so the parents would know that their guests were criminals. "
Not necessarily. The original 1972 film had Mari dead, and the parents still figured out their guests were criminals.
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And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!
In the original, the original plan was for Mari to live. You can even tell when the parents find her how she moves a bit. I respect it when remakes to something different with the material. Why remake it if it is going to be the exact same thing?
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I, too, think Mari should've died. Yes, what they did do to her was already enough and would ruin her for the rest of her life in that she'd never be the same person again as she was before the events. But the parents still had their daughter so it makes them seem more evil than Krug, Sadie, and Frank that their daughter was still alive but they took the lives of her rapists/torturers anyways. Despite Mari living, I think this film is even more dark and depressing than the original. It was technically a good movie, but I felt worse after watching it than I did before. I was depressed and felt sick for watching the movie the entire time and actually missed the comic relief cops from the original. Overall, although this movie was good (though dark and sad), I prefer to watch the original.
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personally i don't see this movie as IMDb shows it which is... 'Crime | Drama | Thriller'. to me it's overall look/feel is more of a 'Horror' film variation than a Crime/Drama variation.
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