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Compliments to the relationship


Someone was bound to comment on the interracial marriage of Sophie and Andrew so I might as well be the first one.

I give my compliments to the film's producers for finally portraying a white woman married to an Asian man especially in the setting of a thirty-something, well-to-do married couple.

Hollywood did depict a romantic relationship between the actor Russell Wong and a well-known Caucasian actress in the 1994 action mini-series, Vanishing Son. But any further depictions of Asian men and Caucasian women were extremely rare in the intervening years.

I liked the selection of actors and actresses. Vera Farmiga is by no means a radiant, glamourous Caucasian beauty. Yet she does look like she fits the role of an everyday, average Caucasian thirtysomething woman who is educated, articulate and most likely in a professional career. Vera as Sophie looks exactly like the kind of spouse you might run across at a cocktail party. She's more believable in her role because she isn't a raving, gorgeous beauty queen. David Lee McInnis as Andrew is an early, tragic figure in the movie. Andrew is tall, 6 feet, 2 inches, and handsome. He's educated, professional, and financially well-off. More, I'll cross this taboo. Andrew speaks perfect, fluent English, a huge advantage for an Asian in the United States. He'll be taken more seriously and won't be made fun of behind his back. Yet all that glitters is not gold. In Korean culture, men especially value their virility. It's not a taboo subject. It's a matter of pride for them. For a man to be unable to sire a child is a crushing, devastating emotional blow, for any man of any ethnic group or race for that matter.

I understand Sophie's intentions. She's not motivated by lust but a desperate desire to save her husband, perhaps his life and their marriage by giving him the child he needs. But the first sex scenes between Sophie and Jihah (Jung woo Ha) are creepy. Sophie's lying there emotionally detached, like someone zonked out on drugs, or worse.

I liked the part early on in the restaurant, where Jihah, not yet fully aware of Sophie's intentions, insults her motives. In return, Sophie blasts Jihah outside the restaurant, outing him about his rejection at the sperm clinic. It was hilarious. I was cheering for Sophie. If I was Sophie, I'd do the same to some inconsiderate assclown like Jihah. Of course, later on, as Jihah finally understands, he becomes a nicer guy.

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I have to agree with you. I have not seen the film, but I've been researching the history of Asian male/White female relationships in cinema and they are woefully sparse. I think it would be a positive step for Asian Americans in Hollywood if we could see more relationships like this. It seems the closest we've gotten in the last few years was Masi Oka and Jayma Mays in Heroes, and for Pete's sake, they didn't even get to close the deal. Why is America so afraid of portraying Asian men as sexy, brave, masculine, and desirable partners, not only for Asian women, but for all women, Black, White, Hispanic, Native American, and everything in between.

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I'd gladly do a romance with Jung woo ha. He's a hottie. Thick, black hair...beautiful skin. I was hoping she'd end up with him because her husband was a self-centered, inattentive, dispassionate man while Jung had all the passion she needed. He changed her for the better and I think she began seeing that trying to make everyone else happy was making her miserable and lifeless. I had no doubt that at the end she was in Korea with Jihah.

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Even though it's a year after your post, I totally agree. The husband didn't really love her; she was status. If he cared for her, he would have thought of her feelings throughout the whole thing. she was almost like a doll, or a trophy. The lover made her be who she really was. I have no doubt, either, that she's with her new husband and child and another on the way.


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I agree, Jung-woo Ha is a hottie. I loved the way he treated Sophie with so much tenderness once they started having feelings for each other. Her husband, although he was handsome, was kind of cold and distant to her. Jihah was so sweet and attentive to her, always concerned about how she was feeling, fixing her tea, giving her his key, etc. He was such a sweet, passionate guy, I kinda fell in love with him, too! lol I'm white and I've often found Asian men attractive and sexy. I would love to have a romance with a hot, sweet guy like Jihah and I'd love to see more movies portraying Asian men in romantic relationships with white women.

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