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Realistic? Spoilers

posted 17 years ago by juviejay
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Okay, Corolla was a Golden Gloves Champion. Even so, for him to be in a ring knocking out bigger, stronger, quicker, younger fighters didn't hold salt. I know it's a movie, but come on. Have you ever, I mean ever, seen anyone knocked out in an Olympic style fight? I never have. Usually with the head gear, heavier gloves and lack of skill of the fighters, it's hard to tell who even won. For him to be knocking people out left and right was just preposterous. And for him to lay off his friend at the end was silly too. He would have knocked him out given the opportunity. Frazier loaned Ali money when he was stripped of his title and broke. But when they were in the ring they tried to tear each other's heads off, and nearly succeeded.

I thought the movie was pretty funny, but it would have been better if his friend had beaten him fair and square in a close fight.

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[–] halosinfire 17 years ago

Like you said, it's just a movie...

[–] juviejay 17 years ago

Yeah, but to enjoy a movie, or book or any work of fiction, you have to have a "willing suspension of disbelief." Here, I did not. Why not have the boxers fly out of the ring when he punches them? Too unrealistic, right? Well, so is knocking them out constantly. I could have accepted one or two knockouts, but every single fight? No.

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[–] deboten 17 years ago

Might've bought all the KO's more easily if he'd turned into John Malkovich.

[–] juviejay 17 years ago

Malcovich is a heavy hitter.

I get your point, but the rules of that movie were different from the rules of this one. That one was fantastical. This one was quasi realistic. It didn't follow it's own rules. That's what bothered me.

I remember watching a James Bond movie a few years ago and Bond was fighting an "army" of soldiers with machine guns. He had his 9 mm. And yet, he was able to somehow successfully dogdge hundreds of bullets, shoot a few of the bad guys and escape. How ridiculous. Why not just say he's bullet proof and can fly? When things are stretched beyond the limits of reason what's the point? Might as well not even watch it.

Although, I guess thinking about it now it would have been less exciting without so many knockouts. Still, I would have prefered a bit more plausibility.

"And the license said you had to stick around until I was dead."--Liz Phair, "Divorce Song"

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[–] PhilB61 15 years ago

Actually, there was a (admittedly, young and extremely talented) boxer at my old gym who routinely knocked out opponents in the first round in olympic style boxing. He also won the Golden Gloves there.

Phil

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[–] rrpostal 15 years ago

Seemed a hell of a lot more realistic than the "Rocky" series were they might as well be pummeling people about the head and neck with tire irons.

[–] juviejay 15 years ago

Somehow I didn't equate the character in this movie with Mike Tyson or Manny Pacquiao. You're right, I definitely should have thought of them before posting my comment. I mean, they were both old fighters at the tail ends of their careers when they entered the Olympics, weren't they?

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[–] zender8584 12 years ago

But, that's the whole point. If you're writing about an older fighter who is going to make it up through the ranks of an olympic qualifier, it's not going to be based on decision, he's going to have to KO everyone since he's older, slower, worse cardiac fitness. He will not be able to outlast anyone. The ONLY chance of winning is to be a better puncher, catch the other with a cheap shot in an early round. The longer the fight lasts, the less likely Carolla's character will win.

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