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The universe is made up of a neat 1-10 system


What a retarded concept, all consciousness in the universe, and possibly outside of the universe which can create universes, can be ranked on a neat 1-10 hierarchical system.

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Well, we humans have constructed this entirely arbitrary thing called 'time', and we even break it up into 'calendars' for each year. And just so it doesn't screw up, we make little exceptions here and there.

Do you think the universe knows how many seconds it has been in existence for? Do you think aliens will use the Metric system? They sure as Hell won't use Imperial.

Did you know that the some earth cultures had numerical systems based on units of 20. There were calendars that measured days by when the sun reached the zenith of its journey across the sky.

Measurement systems are all arbitrary.

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many time-dependent systems functional solely on the consistency of sublightspeed passage. so while time IS an illusion, the measurement of anything during SLSP (re: relative Earth speed) isn't exactly arbitrary.

as for OP's "Neatness" theory; nowhere in the film was it proven that 10 is the limit. We don't even see a 10 in the film, so for all intents and purpose: it could be 1-9. And what if 10's, themselves are unaware of the 11's above them.

Kid: What is the Universe?
Ancient: A giant 8-colored beachball carried on the back of a turtle.
Kid: What is under the Turtle?
Ancient: Another turtle.
Kid: What is under THAT Turtle?
Ancient: More turtles...
Kid: More Turtles?!?
Ancient: Turtles all the way down.



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The biggest reason 10 seems like such an "important" number is just because we have 10 fingers.

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we'd make great pets. --pfp.


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you hit the nail on the head. that is the ONLY reason the "decimal" system exists. It's something ALL humans with 10 fingers can understand. 0-9 are just symbols. but they are symbols that we all understand and can communicate with (very effectively). Therefore, a 1-10 system is a very natural, and comprehensive way to label things.

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nowhere in the film was it proven that 10 is the limit.

It kinda suggested it. Remember what Melissa McCarthy's character said?
God is a ten, a theoretical ultimate, that-which-no-greater-can-be-imagined


A superhero never reveals their true identity

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It kinda suggested it. Remember what Melissa McCarthy's character said?


that's fine. but nowhere in the film was it proven. and characters are allowed to be ignorant of higher dimensional planes. that's the point of higher.

"you can't have the spark, without the rock." --little wings




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that's fine. but nowhere in the film was it proven.

But nothing in the movie was "proven". It wasn't proven that Ryan Reynolds was a '9', it was just stated, just like everything else in the movie.

A superhero never reveals their true identity

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If you're not satisfied with our universe's ranking system, try Nigel Tufnel's. His goes up to 11.

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Heh, yeah. That's what bothered me the most. It's a very weak justification for why the number is important.

Kinda like Genesis' cute little fairytale of the birth of the universe in six days, with a rest day on the seventh. All it establishes is that the 7-day week of the ancient Middle Eastern world (eventually adapted by the whole world) is apparently divine in origin.

But... why seven days? Why not ten days like the ancient Chinese and ancient Egyptian week? Why not nine nights like the ancient Celtic week? Why even set a number at all, when the number of days each year aren't even constant? How would we even know that the day we consider to be the start of the week is the same start of the week 3000 years ago?

It's a completely unnecessary piece of numerology.

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The sevens, such as in seven days, seven seals, seventh heaven (?) and so on is probably a distortion from older spiritual traditions with the seven primary chakras of ordinary humans. I seem to recall a scene in the Nines in which everyone has a number floating above his or her head, and everyone has a seven except the main character who is a nine.

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