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was there a specific reason why they had a plus size woman


You seriously NEVER see a plus size woman as the romantic lead and this film kind of stepped out of the box but then decided to be safe again by throwing in the skinny blonde. I just wondered if her being plus size meant anything to the story. I also wonder that if the actress had been skinny, would there have been a sex scene or at least a french kiss? I feel like the filmmakers didn't show intimacy just cuz she was big.


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I actually found it quite refreshing and I thought the actress was great. Do you really think a sex scene would have added anything to this movie at all?

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Ryans character represents God,Melissa mankind and Hope Davis Satan.The character was probably overweight to show that god loved mankind despite its imperfections that humanity despite its flaws is (supposadly) the greatest of all gods creations
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Joxernolan--that is a good explanation. And I don't care if there was a sex scene, I just think it's lame that he barely kissed the chic & I think it's cuz she's overweight that they didn't do it.



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I don't think so, the rant that M has with G after he chooses the other actress over her in the second story shows that in fact that is why she is with him. She was angry because she new that he wanted to stay in the illusion more then he wanted to stay in the illusion with her. It gave me the impression that she knew that the world was not real but her rant was an insight into her life before hand. She gave up her life to live in these illusions of G's so it couldn't have been that good of a life if she wanted to leave it. She says things like "I am just the fat friend you bring along" and that was not said just for the hell of it its her mentality that came from her life before him. So I think her character was fat (which is not plus sized) because it shows that she was clinging to him for happiness. Which forces me to ask the question was M's life at the end the life she had before or the life she wanted and was given. I think G gave her the life she wanted because he loved her and that was in his power. I didn't get the impression that she was returning to a life she once wanted to leave with G.

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ok well i'm not a total douchebag so i'm not gonna put fat in the title of the thread. and yea she was cute.


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Fat and plus-size are the same thing.
What do you think plus-size IS?!

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Absolutly not! It has nothing to do with satan or any christian interpretation of god. Those two werent the only 9s in this movie. They were all equally godlike beeings. He was only the one thinking the world into existance and getting addicted to it. Beeing in it.
There is no evil character here. They wanted him to get rid of his addiction and come home. Melissa wasnt sure if that would be the end of the world. The end of everything she knews and he dreamed. Thats why she tried to keep him away. She doesnt want to be forgotten. And thankfully it didnt come to that.
Its one of the most beautiful polytheistic, higher beeing stories ive ever saw or read.

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i disagree 100% with your assessment on hope davis. she's just another 9 that doesn't care about humans the way G does.

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The fat girl is actually really prettier then the skinny one.

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Clearly NONE of you watched the DVD of this, if you had you'd have heard the director say that he wrote the part SOLELY with her in mind.
A lot of you seem VERY ignorant of the fact that directors/writers/producers WILL do that when thinking up movies. They have a "dream cast" of actors that they'd love to have and generally can only get one or two or a few if they're lucky.
So in response, the director had Melissa Mccarthy selected for the part when he was writing it.
If you checked him out you'd also see that she's been in his other movies as well.

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Errr, yeah I were kind of thinking the same. One of the main sub-plots was based on the writer bowing to studio pressure over appearance..A lot of the second film was written around this dilemma.
I didn't know that she(the actor) had been in his other movies and that just solidifies that the second part is very much semi-biographical. For me anyhow.
My DVD doesnt have directors comm...gutted. Its an ex-rental. :(. May have to look that up. Would like to watch again with the 9 leading me through it. :D

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Agree. And 60 pounds less, also hotter.

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That would be negative.....

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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agreed, 100%. hope doesn't even have a decent body.

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i think the skinny/big thing was just a quirky juxtaposition the director threw in there. he chose melissa on purpose for this role. she's a gorgeous woman, WAYYY prettier than the thin chick (she's considered a "butterface" to most men).

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A. It shows that "god's" preferences have nothing whatsoever to do with our ever changing standards of beauty.

B. The role was written specifically with her in mind, something that was heavily played upon in Part II.


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By the same token, he didn't have a sex scene with the blonde ether. He kissed both of them at different times in the film. To answer your question, I think they never had sex because the nature of their relationship was not sexual. He loved her (Melissa), as one of his creations, and even told her in the end, "You were my favorite." He didn't say this meaning she was his favorite girlfriend or wife. I believe he meant she was his favorite creation. Also, by casting a plus size woman, in competition with the stereotypical blonde and slender Susan, for the ever so handsome Ryan Reynolds, sets the audience up to think on a more shallow level, that him being a 9, has more to do with his looks. Even in act 2, where melissa is married, and Gavin is seemingly same sex oriened, she mentions that he always calls her when he's bored, then drops her when someone hotter comes around. It sets the stage for us to see that Ryan's character is "superior" to Melissa's somehow. The first idea will always draw to the superficial (looks). But we soon learn, it's not something as superficial as looks. He's a 9 being, and she's a 7 being.

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melissa mccarthy had the role of M because the writer-director wrote the part specifically for her (even her name was melissa in part 2, like playing a movie version of herself)...
i think there was no sex scene because it was simply not needed... there are ways to explore love between two people without having them shagging all the time :)


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