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So if you are sensitive and like women's clothing that makes you female?

posted 9 years ago by lumosnight
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Seriously? Is that the criteria that you are female inside?

I guess then all women who don't wear makeup, are not shy and don't like girly stuff are actually men on the inside.

I mean, this idea of being defined a woman or a man is all based on local cultural norms. Being tough doesn't mean that you have a "man's mind" anymore than being sensitive makes you feminine. These are not exclusively male or female traits, both genders have them.

Please don't take me the wrong way, but I cannot understand the justification for wanting to change your own gender merely because you like to dress differently or your emotional state. It seems that people who surgically change their genders have their own ingrained idea of what a man or woman should behave like, which is honestly a very ignorant view of the sexes.

I don't want to start a flame war here, but can someone give a legitimate explanation why you would do something as drastic as changing your own sex that is not based on sexist views of genders?

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[–] bakerstreetdozen 9 years ago

Being transgender really doesn't have anything to do with cultural norms. It's much deeper and more complicated than that, rooted in science and biology. Please look up gender dysphoria as a first step if you're truly interested, but as it's the internet, I have my doubts.

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[–] themoriartymethod 9 years ago

A misfits quote, and someone who is capable of having an educated opinion on a hot button subject on the Internet?

Am I dreaming?

[–] bakerstreetdozen 9 years ago

Must be.

By the way, I also own a shirt with that particular quote because it's awesome. No one understands it, but it's awesome.

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[–] JoeMama2016 9 years ago

The transgender issue is too complex for someone of your intellectual capability, Goobs.

[–] phil97012 9 years ago

You're right. You don't understand this.
And before you spout your judgment about trans people why don't you do a quick search about the subject beforehand?
Or you're just too lazy.

[–] BrettLovesKerri 9 years ago

I dressed as a woman for the bulk of 20 years before I got married. I loved buying dresses, long silk nightgowns, lingerie...I loved the feel and flow of the material, but never ONCE, did I want to change my sex.

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[–] undomiel152003-1 9 years ago

Your own paragraph, the one that starts..."Please don't take me the wrong way, but I cannot understand the justification..." and on, explains it all. It is not about the clothes or the make-up. It is about how they see themselves mentally/emotionally/psychologically I guess the most accurate description I've read about it is, imagine you look at yourself in the mirror and the body you see is completely different to how you see yourself? You feel trapped in a body which is not yours. You feel you have got the wrong body. They see their genitalia as not matching who they are. They see surgery as a way to re-align what they feel is right versus what nature put there. (hormonally speaking, there are cases, more usual that what we think where the hormonal counts do not match the physical genitalia, so yes, nature makes mistakes)

Quit ya moanin

[–] borabosna-625-510324 9 years ago

"Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden"

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

Results

The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.
Conclusions

Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.