That's what the movie seemed to be saying. That's what it means to be a woman, eh?
If this movie was supposed to make me think that transsexualism is anything more than a tragic mental illness, it failed utterly. The guy just seemed like a nut and the people that took him seriously just seemed to be enabling him on his path to destruction.
All this machine does is swim, and eat, and make little sharks. -- Matt Hooper, JAWS
~VAPID~
shareIt dose seem to be another one of those movies. That tries to convince the general public that Trans Folk are a huge segment of the population. When they make up less than even Gays. Which is about 3% of the population.
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How does it try to convince the general public transgender people make up a huge segment of the population? There is only one trans person in the movie.
shareWhen they make up less than even Gays. Which is about 3% of the population.
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Again, if you count bi and bi-curious it is easily that much. It's easier to know from the inside than from the outside. What people say and do are often very different.
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You will never know obviously because so many you assume are completely straight are not. But if you are completely straight and closed off from the "inside" you will never know how many straight guys have "fantasies" or double lives.
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You just confirmed my whole point. You probably kept yourself consciously (or even subconsciously) away from the openly gay who were either protesters, proponents or obvious due to mannerisms and speech, because those are the ones you could identify and choose to avoid if you wish. You simply considered them a representation of what gay life and men are like since those are the ones who stand out. You however have never been on the inside, and your disapproving and judgemental nature was evident from the start to all concerned. Those who looked and passed as straight would never confide in you.
The minority are the stereotypical ones you easily see and identify as gay. But I assure you that you have some gay or bi men in your family and/or close circle of friends and/or co-workers who slip easily under the radar, as you are certainly not the type of person they would confide in about this. This goes too for those who are (for all intents and purposes) "straight", but nonetheless have or want to "experiment.
There are so many degrees of homosexuality; even the game "Gay Chicken" brings out an excuse for straight guys to experiment under the guise of testing their endurance not to pull sway.
Of course, non of this is surprising since societal homosexuality had been as common as heterosexuality --- and is just as old too.
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Sorry but no again. Your last response only confirms what I said. You are blissfully unaware of the truth and assume those you met have all been straight. You are someone who they would never confide in about personal experiences, experiments or desires so what you "don't know" is what you consider a matter of fact. You want what you think to be true. It's just not, but believe what you want. I used to think like you did until I started meeting gay people and straight people who it turns out had a lot of secrets.
It's not what I want to believe, it's what I (very surprisingly) discovered once on the inside. From what I can tell of you, you will always be on the outside and basing your opinion on that. And that's fine with me.
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Your only view stands on a perspective that only you are the holder of truths and only you can hold and make decisions
...even when the academics and science is all against you.
So as much as I have numerous, thousands of people I have met who have all been straight
...as the undeniable demographic and statistics data that goes back hundreds of years
...we should all believe your personal, subjective, idealistic idea only and nobody else's?
You are looking at it from one direction. That straight people, might, might, possibly, no guarantee are gay because you believe they have secrets. OK. But it goes the other way.
Oh FFS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States
Yes, those are reported/confirmed ones who identify completely as homosexual. It doesn't take into account those who are closeted and don't report or those who are bisexual or experiment, etc. which are far more numerous.
Exactly. I can't believe what so many "straight" people confess when drinking or in the company of someone they know doesn't judge.
shareGoobs, you would look so HAWT in a dress. A rack rack and a slong is so HAWT. You would still be a dude. The main character of this movie is a woman, though.
shareI think the scene where he stood in front of a mirror and tucked his penis and the fact that he risked his life to get a vagina made it pretty obvious that being transgender is about WAY more than just liking to wear dresses. I'm not sure why you couldn't get that.
shareHe didnt risk his life to get a vagina, he actual risked it and lost to get a uterus...A UTERUS!! I mean, WTF???? I agree with the OP that there had to be some form of mental illness afoot. He was nothing more than a guinea pig for a mad scientist. Gerda was a closet lesbian herself (see trivia section before you pounce on me) which would explain why she seemed to go along with everything surprisingly well. I, on the other hand, would have lost my shyt if my husband that I was deeply in love with and trying to start a famy with revealed himself as Elnar did. She seemed to take it all in stride only showing opposition on occasion, yet eventually folding. Gerda, imo, was attracted to the fem side of Elnar. Lili freed her to step out of her closet.
shareShe wasnt a closet lesbian at all. She was living openly as a lesbian for a year in Paris. Goes to show what a mess that trivia page is if the fan submitted that, and as I said in the other thread, that isnt movie trivia anyway. It was also not confirmed she was a lesbian. She was bi if anything, especially considering she went on to marry another man after the first marriage was annulled.
shareWas she an openly gay woman or bisexual before or after Elnar/Lili? If before, then she was closted or perhaps more aptly unaware of her attraction to women; however, if after then I just perceived that Lili's "truth" freed her to make her own declaration about her sexuality. See the movie doesn't mention or address it nor does the trivia section. What the trivia section does mention, just as you have, is that she was later married to man again. Funny how that trivia section has a hit or miss quality to it, huh?
shareYou're an idiot. I already told you I havent read the trivia section. That is a fan based submission and is not movie trivia.
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I just had a quick scan of that. Holy sht. That would have to be the worst trivia section I've ever seen on imdb. Whoever submitted that has absolutely no idea what movie trivia is.
You're an idiot. I already told you I havent read the trivia section. That is a fan based submission and is not movie trivia.--danloki
I just had a quick scan of that.
What do you think that means? A quick scan means exactly that.
Thanks for the laughs, though, fuq this fuq that. Is it full moon or are you always so charming and hysterical? And is putting me on ignore supposed to hurt my feefies? OK you win😭😭😭
You can't get a uterus with any operation available to mankind!! You can only get a vagina, which is the long tube leading to a uterus. Learn some female anatomy.
shareAn important factor surrounding Lili's death was left out from the movie: in the hopes of one day carrying a child, she went through another round of operations in September of 1931, this time with the goal of successfully transplanting a womb into her body. Elbe died of organ rejection after receiving one of the world's earliest uterine transplants (her fifth operation) on September 13, 1931, at the age of 48, but in the film she died after the second sex reassignment surgery. The film not even mentioned that Lili tried to transplant a uterus.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810819/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr2740804
That's where I got the info. about the uterine transplant, so take that "learn something about female anatomy" shyt up with IMDB. Doc.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/11/health/u-s-uterus-transplant-couple-speaks/index.html
And before you start putting exclamation points at the end of your uninformed responses, a cursory Google search would have quieted your ignorance; but now you've opened your mouth and have removed all doubt.
Make yourself comfortable on my ignore list you arrogant c___t.
you arrogant c___t.
I wrote this in another post.
The movie never suggested that simply liking to be in women's clothing makes you female. It showed that the character herself was female inside, and expressed it in many ways, scenes, and emotions.
Denmark has removed transsexualism as a mental illness.
shareThat's what you got out of this? That's he's a woman because he likes to wear dresses?
I suggest you stick with fare that requires very little intelligence.
Time wounds all heels.
That's what the movie seemed to be saying. That's what it means to be a woman, eh?
If this movie was supposed to make me think that transsexualism is anything more than a tragic mental illness, it failed utterly. The guy just seemed like a nut and the people that took him seriously just seemed to be enabling him on his path to destruction.