Its when Odin was holding onto Thor and Loki over the broken bridge. Its when Loki said he did it all for Odin. Odin says no and Loki Lets go. After all that Loki was just little boy trying to please his father. I wished that the sequel would have played this up more.
shareYeah, Loki is so much more stereotypical and kind of bratty and juvenile in the Avengers. I loved the character in the Thor movie, he was so much more nuanced.
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"You're not smiling, Joker. I thought you found death amusing."
Meh, he changed his perspective while he was floating between the realms. He went from a child looking for daddy's approval to a spiteful child who was happy to throw it all into his father's face.
shareWell, I would argue that he always had his "dark" side, we may not forget that he is the norse god of mischief.
Yeah, Loki is so much more stereotypical and kind of bratty and juvenile in the Avengers. I loved the character in the Thor movie, he was so much more nuanced.Aldrius
It's not about whether or not it makes sense.
It's about how much less interesting and more cliche the Avengers version is. I just think they could have pushed it a little further, gotten more to the heart of the character.
But to be fair that movie had a lot of arcs to juggle.
Thor himself too, was just so much more quippy and comic than he was in Thor. I guess I just miss Branagh.
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"You're not smiling, Joker. I thought you found death amusing."
He was to be a king on his home planet, and Odin took that away him.
Then he "should" have been king on Asgard, but Odin took that away from him.
He then went elsewhere to get the power to become a king to throw it in Odin's face.
And that's just kind of a standard revenge story by that point, and the way the character is written is much more broad -- he's just kind of giggling and smug, where he was genuinely conflicted and had some humanity in the original Thor. I don't find it to be as interesting. He's just a stock villain.
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"You're not smiling, Joker. I thought you found death amusing."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nghCaet9wXY
That is a truly great moment.
What makes it work is how the scene parallels Thor's banishment.
In context, the film is a tale of two brothers who want to please their father and do great things, and from there they start to do things differently: both do the wrong thing for the right reasons, but then one becomes good and the other evil.
Thor went to destroy the people of Jotunheim and prove himself a worthy son and was angrily rebuked by Odin for doing something so bloodthirsty and warrior-like, and was thrown out of Asgard and stripped of his power. He learnt to be more considerate and humble towards others, and became a better person for it.
Loki, upon learning of his heritage, schemed to destroy the people of Jotunheim and thus prove himself a worthy son; the same thing. He instead got a sad rebuke from his father that it just wasn't right; this causes Loki to throw himself into space, and thus he ends up allying with Thanos and becoming a worse person.
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