Just started watching season 1 - The Tudors (2007) Discussion

[–] bridgetjones12002 9 years ago

The show is not historically correct (nor are the costumes and jewelry), but it is one of the best shows that was ever made. So if you really get into it, don't take it for face value...there are wonderful books and even websites that will give you the real story of Henry and his wives, his children, and his family history.

I was here when it was running originally and it was one of the best boards ever. I have the DVD of The White Queen and have never watched it yet and I don't watch Reign.The Tudors is fantastic--enjoy!

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[–] Panda530 9 years ago

Thanks for the info :-)

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[–] OnlyAnOrdinaryGirl 9 years ago

There was a lot more historicity to The Tudors than I actually expected. I could see bits of Warnicke, bits of Fraser, bits of Ives in the plots and characterizations.

I was here when it was running originally and it was one of the best boards ever. I have the DVD of The White Queen and have never watched it yet and I don't watch Reign.The Tudors is fantastic--enjoy!

It really was, wasn't it? I miss Little Miss Sunnydale the most. The board during the finale was awesome.

Of all sad words of mouth or pen, the saddest are these: it might have been. - J G Whittier

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[–] bridgetjones12002 9 years ago

t really was, wasn't it? I miss Little Miss Sunnydale the most. The board during the finale was awesome.

Little Miss Sunnydale was a treasure. Brilliant, articulate and so patient with all of our questions about history. I remember that ironically she didn't watch the show, but she would come to the board so we could discuss the "real story". I believe she was writing her thesis on Tudor history, plus she was really lovely, as were most people on this board.

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[–] laura1224 9 years ago

You really should start following history! It's fascinating! We think people are crazy these days with all the stuff on reality tv but the drama of court life is just insane! Start watching documentaries or study some kings/queens/dukes whatever and yowza! They have TONS of material to make great shows off these people!

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[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

"Reign" is bloody awful! The way they ridicule history, especially of the tragic Queen Mary of Scots. If a show isn't turning something into bubble gum pop crap then it won't have a place on the CW network. Doesn't Reign make your head explode with how inaccurate and vacuous it is?

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[–] Panda530 9 years ago

I'm not familiar with the history so I don't know what is true and what isn't and I haven't followed all seasons of Reign but I like the fact that all the shows connect to each other. (i.e. The White Queen, Reign, & The Tudors) so far The White Queen has been my favorite.

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[–] OnlyAnOrdinaryGirl 9 years ago

Reign is a joke. I actually watch it to see what's going to happen next - since it has little to do with actual, you know, history.

Of all sad words of mouth or pen, the saddest are these: it might have been. - J G Whittier

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[–] Panda530 9 years ago

I like the story. I think it's interesting but to each their own, of course! ;-)

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[–] liisbdn-907-683473 9 years ago

same.

of course i know most of it is total fiction, but meh..
it's entertaining!

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[–] nyctc7 9 years ago

"Reign" is bloody awful!

I purchased Episode 1 about 6 months ago, turned it off after 15 minutes, and have never been back.

I became a bit of an anglophile way back in the mid 1970s with Upstairs, Downstairs, and all the great productions back then like Elizabeth R, The Six Wives of Henry VIII, and non-English history but English actor series like I, Claudius.

A little-known 1972 mini-series, Shadow of the Tower, is about Henry VII and I liked it. It is currently on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC9fGIDGqDM

Edited to add: I see it was already mentioned.

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[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

It's somewhat sad that some of the actors from "The Tudors" landed roles on "Reign."

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[–] njgill 9 years ago

For whom is it sad? Nobody forced them to audition for "Reign," did they? As actors, I'm sure they were happy to get work!

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[–] eyeguy72 9 years ago

The Tudors is single-handedly responsible for my current love of all things historic, fact or fiction, especially the War of the Roses/Tudor era.

Glad you're enjoying The Tudors. I wish I was here when the show first aired.

Make sure to share your thoughts with us often, okay?

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[–] Panda530 9 years ago

Will do :-), that's why I love imdb it's super easy to find the message boards for any shows or movie.

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[–] Panda530 9 years ago

So I have a question for everyone, what's the order of history as far as the three shows go? i.e. White Queen, Tudors, & Reign. How does the succession line go? Or if anyone just knows a good site with the info that would be awesome!

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[–] KatharineFanatic 9 years ago

White Queen - covers Henry VII's mother's parents life
[missing miniseries, covering Henry VII)
The Tudors - covers Henry VIII's reign
[missing series covering Mary Tudor's reign]
Reign - Mary Queen of Scots

Line of succession:

Edward + Elizabeth Woodville = Elizabeth of York (daughter)
Margaret Beufort + Edmund Tudor = Henry Tudor

Elizabeth of York + Henry Tudor = Arthur, Margaret*, Mary, Henry VIII

Henry VIII + Katharine of Aragon = Mary I
Henry VIII + Anne Boleyn = Elizabeth I
Henry VIII + Jane Seymour = Edward

* Margaret Tudor + James of Scotland = James
James + Mary of Guise = Mary Queen of Scots
Mary QoS + Henry Stuart = James VI

English Reigns -
Edward then Richard
Henry VII
Henry VIII
Edward
Mary I
Elizabeth
James VI

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[–] bridgetjones12002 9 years ago

[missing miniseries, covering Henry VII)

First of all Katharine, thank you so much for this breakdown of the shows and the line of succession.

There is a miniseries on Henry VII & his wife Elizabeth of York (parents of Henry VIII) and it is called "Shadow of the Tower" and was made in 1972 as a 'prequel" to the other BBC productions of "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" and "Elizabeth R". (Those two are probably my favorite BBC productions. Both are brilliant but remember, nothing like the sexed up stunning gorgeous 'The Tudors')

I have owned it for a few years but have not watched it yet. Actually, I started and it didn't grab me. It's very "stagey". I hope I can get back to it some day because it's the story as you know of Henry VII and the beginning of The Tudor dynasty.

I just checked Amazon and there is literally 1 set of it left. Region 1 for the US and Amazon has just nicely reminded me I bought mine in 2012. That's how long it's sitting here.

OH WOW. EVEN BETTER. For those who have never seen any of these 3 BBC productions I have mentioned there is a boxed called "The Tudor Collection" that has:
Shadow of the Tower
The Six Wives of Henry VIII
Elizabeth R

It's about $65.00 for Region 1. That's an excellent price considering Shadow of the Tower alone is $35.00.

Just like Maria Doyle Kennedy is the Katharine of Aragon that I weigh all other performances against (she is my favorite KOA), Glenda Jackson IS Elizabeth R...there is no greater. As much as I love Cate Blanchette, she can't hold a candle to Glenda Jackson's incredible performance as Elizabeth.

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[–] KatharineFanatic 9 years ago

I saw "Shadow of the Tower" on YouTube a couple of months back; really peaked my interest in Henry VII. My only complaint is that it rushed through so quickly that I never really got to know Elizabeth. But yes, it is worth a watch, particularly for events surrounding the various Pretenders.

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[–] eyeguy72 9 years ago

I like this site. It's got some good articles and plenty of photos, too... http://historymedren.about.com/od/picturegalleries/ig/The-Tudor-Dynasty/

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