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Tamzin overdid it a bit

posted 9 years ago by cjlove2523
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Sure it's a historic soap opera and Catherine Howard was a young, silly fool. But my goodness Tamzin was wayyyyy over the top silly, ditzy, giggly and DRAMATIC it made me squirm a bit. I actually cringed a few times watching her. There was just no subtlety in her performance and the laughing and giggling was just too much for me.

Anyhow, she is very beautiful and loved her clothing and she had good enough chemistry in the few quiet moments she had with Culpeper and Henry. Just couldn't take other parts of her performance.

[–] EsmeCullen79 9 years ago

So true. I actually wanted Henry to off her and fast

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

I only took her seriously when someone ousted her.

[–] eyeguy72 9 years ago

And that someone was...?

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

Nobody knows.

[–] wendywatchesmovies 9 years ago

Actually, there's a lot of evidence that Katherine Howard really was like that. I can't find the quotes RN but there are a lot of writings complaining about the queen and her ladies and their lack of decorum. There really was a huge difference between KH and the other wives. If what we're seeing isn't as it was, it's because the decorum we see from the other wives and their ladies isn't as it was either.

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

She was of aristocratic pedigree but not trained to be an aristocrat. Was carefree and lacked piety. It is a shame that such a person could be easily manipulated into committing treason. In the real world that happens. Lady Rochford was jealous she was not yet married and afforded a life so easily handed to Katherine. Katherine received the highest standard of living while Lady Rochford had to work hard to keep her station as lady-in-waiting at the royal court. She was aristocratic inside and out so lacked respect for anyone who wasn't like her. That's why Katherine was manipulated.

[–] njgill 9 years ago

Lady Rochford was jealous she was not yet married

Do you know who Lady Rochford was?

I think she was nuts to want to be at court at all,

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

She was disposable.

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[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

I meant she was jealous she was not married to the King.

[–] Moonlighty 9 years ago

She didn't want to be married to the king.

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Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

Then why even work hard to remain chief lady-in-waiting? What could she have gained out of working at Court if she wasn't interested in getting married to the king?

[–] Rikku25 9 years ago

Since her husband had been executed as a traitor, she didn't have any estates or inheritance from him because all that would've passed through the male line and she didn't have a son. Only the bad rep of being "that traitor's widow", I guess. Living at court was probably a social pardons, plus she was taken care of in terms of having a place to live, clothes and food.

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

I think her interest wasn't in getting married but to have a decent life. She looked down upon those who were inferior to her (from her perspective) and felt entitled to the highest standard of living. Living at Court gave her the sort of life she wanted and at the same time she was free to have affairs. It was a perfect life for her.

[–] mjhart20 9 years ago

"I meant she was jealous she was not married to the King. "

That's so far from true I don't know even where to start.

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

Yeah, I know! :-). Do you find her worthy of respect?

[–] biddle2 9 years ago

I am just getting to this part in Netflix. I don't know if it is her acting, or how the writers wrote her part, but I have to agree. She is such a ditz. And they have the king acting like a horny teenager over her.
You would think after he has done away with so many wives, and if she really liked living the royal life, she would have been very very careful not to lose her head.

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

I don't think she ever knew what happened to the former wives.

[–] njgill 9 years ago

Anne Boleyn was her cousin:

Catherine and Anne were first cousins. Catherine’s father, Lord Edmund Howard, was the brother of Anne Boleyn’s mother, Lady Elizabeth Howard.

It defies credulity that Catherine would not have been informed of her cousin's demise only four years prior to her pwn liaison with the monarch - and have been warned about his jealousy.

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

If she knew about what happened and believed it she wouldn't have acted like an idiot. I highly doubt she knew because she lived in a secluded environment prior to coming to court. If she actually did know and believed it then she really was an idiot. But it doesn't really matter anyways. She's been dead for several centuries.

[–] njgill 9 years ago

she lived in a secluded environment prior to coming to court

Historical fact proves this assumption to be wrong.

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

Who cares?