Henry destroyed Catholicism for a woman. - The Tudors (2007) Discussion

[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

England is Anglican which is not considered a Protestant denomination. It's actually very similar to Catholicism. The Lutheran denomination is the original source of the Protestant faith and was embraced by nearly all of Germany during his reign. Scandinavia and Holland followed suit. Henry was always Catholic but he was a pivotal figure in Renaissance politics. He made sweeping changes that impacted the course of English history forever. He was educated, intelligent and a humanist. He believed that certain ways of handling private matters should be discarded or modified if they were no longer effective. Anne Boleyn was younger than Katherine of Aragon. She was educated, intelligent, pious, well-rounded and enjoyed the same things he did. They had similar ideals. Katherine was more old-school during her time and was older than Henry. Henry wanted someone who was equal in every sense of the word. Anne was younger than him but she was in touch with contemporary issues and knew what her subjects wanted.

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[–] ScorpionTDC 9 years ago

It was only Anglican because Henry rebelled against the church over the whole divorce thing...... Which was the OPs whole point

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[–] louiseculmer 9 years ago

Although henry did not consider himsefl a protestant, he did destroy a lot of what the catholic church was about - the destruction of the monasteries for instance,e vidence of which can still be seen, there are many ruined abbeys and monasteries all over England. henry admired Anne Boleyn's wit, but he certainly did not see her as an equal. he expected her to be obedient to him as his wife and as his subject. exactly what he thought of her is shown in his curt comment to her when she complained about the attentions he was showing to another woman - he told her that she should shut her eyes and endure as her betters had done. 'betters' must have stung, that was a clear reference to katherine of Aragon, who as a princess of Spain was indeed Anne's 'better'.

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[–] fleurfairy 9 years ago

The Catholic Church was highly corrupt. Still is but maybe to a lesser extent and I say this as a Catholic myself. Innocent people certainly shouldn't have been targeted, but I had no sympathy for the Pope or his corrupt cronies.

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[–] louiseculmer 9 years ago

it is a shame. But I think he was partially motivated by greed as well - he wanted to get his hands on the wealth of the church too. Though oddly enough, henry didn't see himsefl as having destroyed the catholic church - he still had protestant heretics executed for instance. he seems to have considered himself still catholic - just with himself at the head of the church instead of the pope.

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[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

He was the true definition of a "Renaissance Man." He tried driving the Protestant Reformation but wasn't very good at it. If it weren't for his son and brother-in-laws, Anglicanism would not have had a surviving chance. Catherine Parr made sure Elizabeth and Edward received a Protestant-influenced education. By the time Mary ascended the throne, she was faced a largely converted population. Her attempts to return England to the Catholic faith were futile. Having Bishop Cramer and hundreds of Protestants executed
wasn't a strong deterrence. Anglicanism and Catholicism were nearly identical, so people who were Protestant could pass for Catholic so as long as they remained mum on their political and religious viewpoints. Elizabeth was but key players at Court did not want to take the risk of her ascending the throne.

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[–] scorpiascorpio 9 years ago

"to marry an indecent woman as Anne Boleyn."

And how exactly was Anne Boleyn indecent?

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[–] KatharineFanatic 9 years ago

The real one isn't.

The Anne Boleyn of this series is a manipulative, power-hungry homewrecker, so you can see how this biased, anti-Boleyn statement might make someone call her "indecent."

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[–] Papacy24 9 years ago

Anne Boleyn was ambitious, strong-willed, temperamental, intelligent and exercised a great deal of influence over the king. She wasn't submissive but she was obedient. The show portrayed her as accurate as possible for a mainstream audience. Although, if the character was entirely accurate then nobody would have found her entertaining. Anne Boleyn was courted by King Henry VIII for several years before she decided to marry him. On the show it made it seem like it didn't take that long for her to say "Yes."

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[–] liverpool26 9 years ago

Thats far too harsh it was certainly never destroyed as UK has tons of Catholic Church's and school's, I went to one myself. His daughter Mary or better known as bloody mary is most to blame as a Catholic extremist who went on a killing spree of protestants.

People shouldn't force their beliefs on others, both sides are as bad as the muslim extremists we have today.

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