...or understand his motives are lucky. Have you always have your life figured out? Have you never questioned your existence or purpose or the conventional way of living? Have you never wanted to seek happiness solely for yourself and frankly, really having enough of listening to other people's opinion on how to live your life? Many people don't like Christopher Mccandless but he seems like one of those philosophical thinkers that start revolutions (i.e. Descartes, Locke etc) since those were the people that went against societal ways of thinking and norms. Maybe I'm just too existential but I really resonated with this movie and I'm curious as to how people did not at all.
Surviving off the land is the hardest thing to do nowadays. Nobody knows how to thrive in the bush without experience. That is what Chris set out to do, to experience.
I think we can all agree that stupidity does not further the cause of mankind.
That was the plot in the movie (probably to add drama and pathos) but in fact the real Chris McCandless did not eat anything poisonous. He had more wilderness experience than is evident from the film, too. However, he seriously miscalculated how difficult it is (and was then) to survive by killing game in that part of Alaska. As one of the trappers interviewed in the "Call of the Wild" documentary about McCandless said, "This is hungry country -- there ain't much to eat out there."
What he did manage to kill and eat was mostly lean protein (birds, squirrels, etc.), which are low in fat and carbohydrates -- the "Atkins diet." This speeds up weight loss even more than restricting calories -- and McCandless also didn't have enough calories.
He did not originally plan to spend a long time in the bush -- he was planning to be back in South Dakota before the end of August. When his plan to cross the river where he originally came in was thwarted, we don't know why he didn't take one of the other routes open to him, which he knew about from his earlier explorations and from the map he had with him (yes, he did have a map).
His note on the outside of the bus said that he was injured -- how? Why didn't he trek out before it was too late? He did want to live, that was clear, although towards the end he became reconciled to his fate.
McCandless had done a lot of wilderness camping and solo adventuring from childhood onwards, but always in less severe conditions than what he found in Alaska. Ironically, it may have been the bus that did him in -- had he been forced to depend on his makeshift tent and sleeping bag, he would have headed back to Healy well before he became too weak to walk around. As it was, the comfort of the bus lulled him into a false sense of security.
It was the berry that killed him, but there's plenty of other instances in the movie where it is shown him being unprepared. The death of the moose being a big one, the shot if him hooting in the air and yelling where all the animals were being another. I mean the guy did not study migration/hibernation patterns nor did he have any training skinning/gutting animals in a sufficient amount of time. These things were previously taught to us from our fathers and there fathers before them. Since he didn't have a father to teach him any of this, he should have taken on some kind of apprenticeship and had some hands on experience in a nearby reserve or something instead of jumping all the way out in the middle of nowhere without any knowledge at all.
And that's the point. If you don't have experience, you do NOT go out alone to get that experience. You go with someone who DOES have experience. You learn from them, and THEN you go out alone for a walkabout. And you always have 2-3 backup plans. Things can and do go wrong in the wilderness.
I do not think he deserved to die for his stupidity, but I think it is ridiculous that he is being glorified.
And that's the point. If you don't have experience, you do NOT go out alone to get that experience. You go with someone who DOES have experience. You learn from them, and THEN you go out alone for a walkabout. And you always have 2-3 backup plans. Things can and do go wrong in the wilderness.
I do not think he deserved to die for his stupidity, but I think it is ridiculous that he is being glorified.
This is pretty much how I feel, though slightly less extreme. I do believe that Chris's rejection of societal norms is what polarizes people, and I think he had some interesting views on life. I also think he was young, naive, and selfish in many ways. He never contacted his parents, or his sister who he cared for deeply, to let them know he was okay. He was ill-equipped and unprepared for his "Alaskan Adventure" and it ultimately cost him his life. He was not a revolutionary or a hero in any sense of those words, but he was also not a spoiled brat or completely a-hole like some people make him out to be. He was an idealistic young person trying to find himself who went about it in some unconventional and sometimes selfish means. He made some bad decisions and ultimately died as a result of them.
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To the OP, those types of people have questioned life and wondered about other possibilities but they don't dwell on them. They can give reasonable justifications for the reasons why they do the things they do or don't do. They're for the most part content with their lives and feel there are no major things lacking so they don't seek more. Nothing is wrong with them, it's just who they are. This movie had a impact on me because of it's overall messages (there was more than one major message). I personally believe Chris thought he succeeded but he truly didn't. He only got to experience the lifestyle he yearned for but he never got to live it or become that person he wanted to be. Chris was flawed as a person and so were his ideals.
I get the part of about the consumerism, the inequities in life, the pain and suffering you see that no one seems to be doing enough about. But I don't get cutting off yourself entirely from your loved ones, including the ones he met along the way. Even those who lived off the land that he met didn't live in isolation, but lived in loving communities that they created themselves. We were not created to live alone. Even monks and nuns who choose to leave their old life behind go to a community of like minded people.
Beyonce has a song, "I was here" that is such an antithesis to all that she's marketed herself to be up to this point. It basically talks about leaving an impact on the world after you die. I have to believe that by his leaving a journal and other documentation around that he wanted his life's journey not to be in vain and to cause people to think about their decisions and beliefs.
I'd liken him more to revolutionary thinkers like Descartes and Locke if he had actually achieved anything, or had any kind of point to make. McCandless didn't. He didn't accomplish anything, and he didn't even try to... he just ran away from being a person and instead tried to be a storybook hero he invented. He couldn't be Christopher McCandless, so he tried to become "Alexander Supertramp." That person didn't exist, and so, eventually, neither did Christopher.
Descartes and Locke were great thinkers. Chris was not. I get it that a lot of people like the idea of going and living in the woods... but there's nothing admirable about Chris. This isn't a Walden story. Thoreau (although overrated), planned things out and didn't go to the ass-end of nowhere and try to be something he wasn't.
Romanticizing this guy and making excuses for him blurs the whole point of his story: he's dead, he died horribly, and his unrealistic dreams and ideals are what killed him.
I'd liken him more to revolutionary thinkers like Descartes and Locke if he had actually achieved anything, or had any kind of point to make. McCandless didn't. He didn't accomplish anything, and he didn't even try to [...] Descartes and Locke were great thinkers. Chris was not
No he was just a moron. People stuck in Antarctica have performed their own self-surgery.He went out and didn't know crap about the land but wanted to act like he was an Eskimo or something.At least do your research and talk with hunters around that area. I've traveled around the world but I usually want to find someone with experience in that region.
- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
Slow the *beep* down there. He was a recycler of philosophy not one himself. That's not to say that people that don't consider the philosophy of things have their *beep* figured out. They just listen to Pavement, smirk and let the sh*t roll of their backs.
I think at some point in their life most people are trying to figure out life, they try to search for the purpose and meaning of their life, but some people don't dwell on it and try to make the best of what life's offered to them and some others keep thinking about it to the point that it's bugging them and make them take an "extreme" path like what Chris did or becoming monk, etc. It's good movie I can understand his sentiment but he shouldn't have shunned his family like that.
but he seems like one of those philosophical thinkers that start revolutions (i.e. Descartes, Locke etc)
No. Just no. This kid was a spoiled, narcissistic, inconsiderate twat with an unwarranted superiority complex, just like everyone who thinks like him. It's feasible to find ones own way through the world without being an ignorant, self-righteous little *beep* who has the gall to look down on anyone who doesn't run off into the woods and put their family through emotional turmoil.
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