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The idea of the movie is a good one, but I cannot believe that in 14,000 years he never contracted a fatal illness or had an accident. Even if he was incredibly lucky, there's no way he would last past a few centuries at best.

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This was brushed over or kept vague for some reason. I was waiting for someone to point out the unbelievable luck of avoiding death for 14,000 years but no one did. However, it was mentioned more than once that he didn't scar and it was also mentioned that he survived stuff like Bubonic plague & lots of other illness. So, maybe he was resistant to things that would kill normal humans and could heal much more efficiently. I'd have to watch it again to listen to some of the dialog more closely, see if I missed something.

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Pretty much spot on. It's quite mysterious, as all he mentions is that he survived illnesses and some wounds from which he never scars once he heals. He doesn't know what would happen if he would've gotten shot though.

But it's pretty clear that he never got major wounds - losing a limb or such. Which I agree, is very lucky.

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I daresay... the movie even left open a supernatural interpretation. Jesus being supernatural too then, after all, just not exactly the way the Bible says. But a man (uniquely, or uniquely enough) living 14,000 years? That has to be special in some way, doesn't it?

I'm a Christian, btw. But I enjoyed this nonetheless--and it wasn't without some compatibilities to my faith, on a certain level. Definitely challenging and thought-provoking, but if your faith is strong enough you can handle the unconventional perspective this offers . I'd recommend taking great care in just sharing this with any Christian friend though.

It's fiction of course, it's a movie, but it is an interesting way of seeing. As a science fiction story, the implications and possibilities explored are mind-blowing. Definitely a work of great thought and imagination, in the form of a discussion in a cabin in the woods no less. Simple "dialogue movies" like this are rarely my cup of tea, but this certainly drew me in. And I wasn't even baked or anything .


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It's fiction of course, it's a movie, but it is an interesting way of seeing.


Too many people in the world too ready to be too offended.
If we get too literal, then the Commandment "You shall not bear false witness" would outlaw any form of fiction being created by (and assumedly consumed by) any Jew or Christian.
So, yeah, just because this work of fiction doesn't jive with one's religious beliefs doesn't make it blasphemous in itself. Even Jesus told parables to explain his ideas...but parables are stories that never actually happened...therefore Jesus bore false witness.

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I don't see how you arrived at that conclusion. I think you vastly underestimate the role ageing plays in dying from almost everything (there are obviously some exceptions, such as massive trauma). A 30-year-old can survive a lot more than a 70-year-old (or small child, for that matter) can. Really, the only infectious diseases a healthy adult needs to worry about are epidemics. Not dying from one of those, even over a 14 000-year period, is not that far-fetched.

Seeing as he was generally risk-averse (that's why he kept moving every few years), not having had a fatal (or paralysing, or maiming, or...) accident isn't particularly remarkable, either.

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by TompaDompa - Seeing as he was generally risk-averse (that's why he kept moving every few years), not having had a fatal (or paralysing, or maiming, or...) accident isn't particularly remarkable, either.

Agreed. For a person having lived that long, and seeing us "normal" people making the same old mistakes again and again, it would likely become second nature to spot the onsets of conflict (whether mass or individual) and remove oneself from such situations before they ever got started.

And even though John said he didn't have "eyes in the back of his head", such a person would likely also not go through life in an oblivious manner moment to moment that would contribute to being involved in accidents. After all, what is generally the leading cause of "accidents"? Someone not paying attention to what's happening around them.

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He spent literally thousands of years walking around in the wild. Thousands of years! Are you trying to tell me that he never had a major accident or lapse in judgement in 5000 years of walking around the wild? Never attacked by an animal?

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by Macka24 » He spent literally thousands of years walking around in the wild. Thousands of years! Are you trying to tell me that he never had a major accident or lapse in judgement in 5000 years of walking around the wild? Never attacked by an animal?

Then by the same factor, he'd have had 5000 years to prepare for and become aware of the possibilities of just such occurrences.

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He spent literally thousands of years walking around in the wild. Thousands of years! Are you trying to tell me that he never had a major accident or lapse in judgement in 5000 years of walking around the wild? Never attacked by an animal?


In those 5000 years, you had about 5 Billion ancestors...what are the chances they all survived to procreate with the correct mate so in x amount of years they created you?.....astronomical...in fact I'd say it's not possible and you should vanish in a puff of logic.

But you wont...because no matter how astronomical the odds it happened.

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It's the first 7,000 years or so of subsistence hunting with lots of predatory megafauna around and no agriculture or medicine that I think would be the real hurdle. The activity involved in hunting reindeer, elk, etc. frequently with nothing but spears and thrown rocks would involve a lot of risk of injury, at least some of which could be instantly fatal even to a man with a very robust immune system who heals without scarring. Unless we're talking about Wolverine-style fast regeneration, anyway.

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If his cells replicate perfectly every time, and he doesn't scar, then most 'fatal' diseases will not affect him.

There are no eternal facts, as there are no absolute truths

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Not to mention, that if he regenerates perfectly it stands to reason that he can lose a limb and as long as he survives the initial trauma, it will regrow perfectly

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That's an interesting thought. I'd considered that, but I'm not sure if it would necessary be the case, since our cells with their current, flawed replicative powers do not even attempt to regrow the arm. The skin regrows, but the rest of the tissue does not. The bone doesn't come back, for example. This isn't to do with poor cell replication but the fact that the cells are only programmed to grow limbs once.

At least, that's my understanding, and I confess to having only a passing interest in biology!

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He DID say he contracted smallpox. That's the first time he claimed he didn't scar, when asked why he didn't have any as usual after smallpox.


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There might be more than one person who is like him, he also seems to have met somebody with a similar claim. It could be just that they have learnt to stay undetected. Some might have died after a few hundred years due some other factor and he is one of those who are "extremely lucky".

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So you're saying the guy in this fictional movie couldn't possibly be real? Hmmm, you might just be onto something.

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It's a fictional story, I repeat, FICTIONAL. Jesus, some people on these boards are dumb.

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The premise of the movie is entirely fictional, so trying to rationalise it using your understand of how the world really works is pretty silly. It's a movie about a 14,000 year old man for crying out loud.

Really, all this movie asks is that you suspend disbelief and go with it. If you can't do that, they I suggest you quit fiction.

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