hey.i havent read the books however i just finished the movie and i can't stop
wondering why Susan and Peter will not be in the next movie?
i mean..why are the four siblings breaking up? will we ever see Peter and Susan in the next movies again?
pls answer..thanks! x
To answer your question: Peter and Susan are too old for Narnia but Peter comes back in The Last Battle.
I really recommend reading the series.
Peter eventually comes back to Narnia, but Susan does not. Aslan says it's because she's more interested in boys, makeup, and invitations to parties than Narnia, which to me sounds like CS Lewis was trying to say "if you're a girly girl you're going to Hell," so yeah, he's kind of a jerk.
share"Peter eventually comes back to Narnia, but Susan does not. Aslan says it's because she's more interested in boys, makeup, and invitations to parties than Narnia, which to me sounds like CS Lewis was trying to say "if you're a girly girl you're going to Hell," so yeah, he's kind of a jerk."
Peter never went back to Narnia. Not once in TLB did he step foot in Narnia, only Eustace and Jill went back to Narnia from England.
Aslan never made any comments regrding Susan. Jill and Polly give the explanations. She is not with everyone else because she was not on the train. Susan's failing was not being interested in "lipstick, nylon,and invitations" but for denying that Narnia ever existed.
Basically, she abandoned a large portion of her life to act ridiculously. She was being foolish in what she was doing, not serious. It would be kind of like a girl who just wants to be popular for the sake of being popular. She would be like the kind of girl found in "Clueless" without the money.
Bob
So acting like a girl in "Clueless" is so bad that Aslan wouldn't let her back in? Sorry, but I think I'm following Tash from now on.
shareSo acting like a girl in "Clueless" is so bad that Aslan wouldn't let her back in?
As far as future movies are concerned `Queen Susan` may appear in `The Horse and His Boy` though this story takes place towards the end of the period when the Pevensies ruled Narnia so it takes place before the events of PC.
Peter may appear in `The Last Battle`, possably in a scene set in England and in one that takes place in `Aslans country/Real Narnia` but not in the Narnian world as such.
As to the `what happened to Susan` question.
This has been discussed a lot already so there is no point in starting it again here, just look up the old threads, lot of interesting stuff there.
"Any plan that involves loosing your hat is a BAD plan.""
This seems to be a major misunderstanding on your part. Both she and Peter went from England to Narnia only twice, equal to the number of times Jill went. Lucy went five times (three in LWW) Edmund four times (twice in LWW) and Eustace three times. Does that mean there is a heirarchy regarding the number of times someone entered? No.
Why didn't Susan go with everyone else in TLB? She wasn't dead! Everyone else had been on the train that crashed. They died. Susan lived. On the train, only Eustace and Jill went back to Narnia. They were the only ones to have witnessed the end days of Narnia in person of the eight Friends of Narnia who lived in England. Everyone else went to the Narnia version of Heaven, called Real Narnia.
Susan did not go to the afterlife because she was still alive. I could ask why G*d has abandoned you since you are not in Heaven, but you would rightly state that you weren't dead yet. The same with Susan, she wasn't denied access to Heaven because of her attitude, she was denied access because she was still alive.
Do you understand now? Aslan never banished her due to her behaviour. In PC, he stated that neither she nor Peter were coming back as they had to live in their own world and had learned all they could learn in Narnia. The same speech was given to Lucyand Edmund at the end of VotDT. The lessons just didn't seem to stick with Susan as much as everyone else.
Bob
I didn't think they explained this very well in the movie. It was just they wouldn't be coming back. - Being too old is a wierd reason for them not to be able to come back, when they were such a big part of Narnia.
share
For the record, being too old was the reason Peter told his younger siblings for the reason Aslan gave him and Susan for not returning. Everything that is assumed about their full conversation is taken from what Aslan told to Lucy and Edmund at the end of VotDT.
Bob
Fournote, you're jumping to (wrong) conclusions here. The issue is one of faith not of being a "girly girl," which is beside the point. Susan lost her faith in Narnia and Aslan. If you study about Lewis you will find that he was something of an anti-modernist and felt to a certain extent that material things can corrupt and distract people. The part about make-up and parties and all is a warning not to let material and social things distract you from spiritual and moral goals. It is also a commentary on how children often lose their faith in things as they grow older (as Lewis himself did, before finding again his lost faith in God many years later). You've got to remember that Lewis was a Christian writer. In Christian theology if you lose faith in God (Aslan in this case) you do not go to heaven. It's really not about Lewis being a "jerk" unless the practitioners of most of the religions on earth (well, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam at any rate) are also jerks for believing similarly. At any rate, I think Lewis indicates the Susan will get to Narnia eventually and since she's not dead yet she still has time to find her lost faith.
shareNo, he's trying to say if you concentrate on Worldly thing like makeup and boys for girls and not concentrating on Aslan you will go to Hell
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No, he's trying to say if you concentrate on Worldly thing like makeup and boys for girls and not concentrating on Aslan you will go to Hell
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